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Old 11-07-2009, 10:12 PM  
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For all you Brock Lesnar nuthuggers...
That's exactly what Fedor would do to Lesnar too. Deal with it.
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Old 11-09-2009, 02:26 PM   #136
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I said this previously, but he did a public appearance just 2 or 3 weeks ago and definitely looked like he had been ill.
DID you see him at the vikings game?
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Old 11-09-2009, 02:27 PM   #137
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Did you ask him this? Or read any articles or interviews where he's stated this or even hinted at this? If so please give the link.

You ever had mono dumbass? my guess is no.
why call names? i havent. and yeah i have had mono. in HS. never missed a practice or game.
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Old 11-09-2009, 02:27 PM   #138
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Per JASONAUTO:

"Since brock has been in MMA what has he ACTUALLY done on the ground besides laying and throwing sloppy punches? fedor will take full advantage of him. IMO"

This post implies that you think Brock's ground n pound won't work against Fedor because Brock will end up getting submitted on the ground. Am I right???? I dont see how you come to this horrible prediction because Brock's gonna want to control the fight on the ground.....and don't say he can't have his way with someone that's around 230.

A better question is what does he need to do OTHER than throwing "sloppy" punches.....so far that's worked against UFC's elite HW's. You're obviously a fan of a technician in the ring....someone who can submit. Brock hasn't submit anyone because frankly he doesn't need to.
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Old 11-09-2009, 02:28 PM   #139
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DID you see him at the vikings game?
Yeah he blew a horn.......BFD. Guess that means he's ok to train hardcore for a championship fight!
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Old 11-09-2009, 02:29 PM   #140
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I think you are really reaching here bro. I respect your opinions, much more so then Guardian for sure, but to say he is scared of the fight is a little crazy.

What what would you say odds are on a Fedor/Brock fight? I think 3-1 Fedor, so I give brock about a 25-30% chance.
i would say that the vegas odds would actually be in brock's favor. most stateside fight fans would be putting their money on brock. i would give brock about the same chance as you. 25-30% to win. fedor 70-75% to win.

i will say that, to me, brock might be a little leery of his next fight, not scared and i never said he was scared
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Old 11-09-2009, 02:31 PM   #141
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Per JASONAUTO:

"Since brock has been in MMA what has he ACTUALLY done on the ground besides laying and throwing sloppy punches? fedor will take full advantage of him. IMO"

This post implies that you think Brock's ground n pound won't work against Fedor because Brock will end up getting submitted on the ground. Am I right???? I dont see how you come to this horrible prediction because Brock's gonna want to control the fight on the ground.....and don't say he can't have his way with someone that's around 230.

A better question is what does he need to do OTHER than throwing "sloppy" punches.....so far that's worked against UFC's elite HW's. You're obviously a fan of a technician in the ring....someone who can submit. Brock hasn't submit anyone because frankly he doesn't need to.
yeah you are right, he may TRY to control the ground, doesnt mean he wont get subbed.

and brock doesnt have the skills to submit anyone right now IMO
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Old 11-09-2009, 02:34 PM   #142
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i would say that the vegas odds would actually be in brock's favor. most stateside fight fans would be putting their money on brock. i would give brock about the same chance as you. 25-30% to win. fedor 70-75% to win.

i will say that, to me, brock might be a little leery of his next fight, not scared and i never said he was scared
I think the betting public is probably more intelligent that you give them credit for. No way Vegas favors Brock over the 30-1 best MMA fighter in the world IMO.
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Old 11-09-2009, 02:38 PM   #143
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Fedor has a pretty good history against wrestlers.

Matt Lindland - Armbar rd 1
Mark Coleman - Armbar twice
Kevin Randleman - Armbar rd 1
Kazuyuki Fujita - RNC rd 1

Sense a pattern?
I am anxious to see if the fight ever happens, in the mean time Lesnar v Carwin and Fedor v Overeem should be entertaining fights.
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Old 11-09-2009, 02:48 PM   #144
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I think the betting public is probably more intelligent that you give them credit for. No way Vegas favors Brock over the 30-1 best MMA fighter in the world IMO.
sorry i just dont see it, hell look how many here think fedor stands NO chance. it's that way everywhere
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Old 11-09-2009, 02:50 PM   #145
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sorry i just dont see it, hell look how many here think fedor stands NO chance. it's that way everywhere
I don't see anyone, anywhere who thinks that. This thread is about how Lesnar is considered a joke by MMA "purists".
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Old 11-09-2009, 02:52 PM   #146
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sorry i just dont see it, hell look how many here think fedor stands NO chance. it's that way everywhere
Who is that broski? I have seen anyone say that.
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Old 11-09-2009, 03:01 PM   #147
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fedor couldnt stop the takedown IMO, brock would still be in trouble IMO, he would get submitted.
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I just love how you think Fedor would automatically submit Brock.......Fedor couldnt get Rogers to submit, but yet Brock would get submitted immediately if Brock did his ground n pound. Fedor would take advantage of that.

See how dumb that sounds?
Don't know what post you were reading. Please tell me where it's posted Brock would get submitted immediately if he did his ground and pound? I don't recall anyone on here saying it would be a quick submission. People are saying that Fedor would wait for his opportunity on the ground and for Brock to make a mistake and then he would submit him. Quickly I myself highly doubt.


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yeah he lands them because most guys FREAK OUT, fedor stays calm. and fedor has fought no one like brock because there is no one. BUT why dont YOU name one guy with fedors skills that brock has fought. hell right now brock is intimidated by carwin IMO.
Yup. Works both ways. Neither one of these fighters has fought a similar fighter to one another. Because there's only one Fedor and one Lesnar. That being said any comment or prediction as to what the outcome would be if these two ever do fight is exactly that. It's merely specualtion at this point, and who the hell really knows if the fight will ever come to fruition. My money's on Fedor though.



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He didn't have to submit him, he knocked him out lol.
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yeah you are right, he may TRY to control the ground, doesnt mean he wont get subbed.

and brock doesnt have the skills to submit anyone right now IMO
As far as Brock having the skills to submit anyone right now, I don't think anyone really knows that for sure other than Brock himself, and his camp. I mean no one has ever seen him try in an actual match. Then again he hasn't had too. When push comes to shove I'd like to see what kind of submission repertoire Brock has in his arsenal other than forcing his opponents into submission due to ground and pound. While effective I'm sure he could benefit from being more well versed in his ground game however like I said, no one person at least from an MMA fan standpoint really knows for sure.
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Old 11-09-2009, 03:05 PM   #148
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I don't see anyone, anywhere who thinks that. This thread is about how Lesnar is considered a joke by MMA "purists".
Really I don't see how anyone can consider a joke of a fighter. While he may not be the best fighter in the world, I don't think he's a joke. Matter of fact far from it probably. I mean despite the talent or lack there of in the UFC heavyweight division (IMO the talent level is improving), I just don't think he wins the heavyweight title if he's just a "joke". Just my opinion though.
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Old 11-09-2009, 03:52 PM   #149
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There are good arguments both ways. Right now there is only one Fedor and only one Lesnar. We can't make comparisons because of this (however we can speculate and call each other morons till we are blue in the face). I was watching Fedor Saturday night and thought he was in trouble, then BLAM!!! This was my first time watching Fedor so I didin't know this was typical. I have seen Brock fight several times and he absolutely detroys people. His loss to Mir the first time was due to a lack of experience in MMA. I would love to see a Fedor vs Lesnar fight. I hope this happens. It would be the biggest MMA fight of all-time (at least the most hyped).
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Old 11-09-2009, 04:04 PM   #150
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I don't see anyone, anywhere who thinks that. This thread is about how Lesnar is considered a joke by MMA "purists".
there is a thread around here somewhere that most act like fedor is a joke, i will try and find it.
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