Chiefs Does DJ start for us this year? - Page 2

RedThat · 03-10-2010, 04:47 PM

Im curious to know the opinions of some. He received first-round tender that should speak high volumes about how this organization feels about him.

DJ has always been one of those real interesting players to me who shows both flashes talent and playmaking ability at times. But he also displays a lack of consistency, and is not a fundamentally sound football player. He makes too many mental errors on the field. That side has got the best of him.

Im just wondering if his performance against the Broncos and his playmaking ability throughout the year was a good enough sign or indication to convince the coaching staff that they'll give him his chance to start. And so they should. He is arguably a lot more talented then Mays and Williams and is one of the few guys we have on defense that can actually make plays. Plus, I'd like to see how he performs or is utilized under Crennel.

He has disappointed me thus far into his career simply because I believe he needs to work more on the fundamental aspects of his game and has to be mentally tougher as a player. Could he do this by maturing and by being with the right coach? I just think its clear he is not a sound player, but hopefully that can come with time. I hope he fully develops and Im glad the Chiefs didn't give up on him.

milkman · 03-10-2010, 10:04 PM

5 years in, the player you see is the player that you get.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-11-2010, 01:01 AM

Willie Lanier · 03-11-2010, 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by RedThat

Im curious to know the opinions of some. He received first-round tender that should speak high volumes about how this organization feels about him.

He is arguably a lot more talented then Mays and Williams and is one of the few guys we have on defense that can actually make plays..

Arguably isn't the word you are seeking, unquestionably is more accurate. That "player" has talent far greater than many pro bowl backers in this league, but he lacks far too much in the cerebral department to translate it onto the field.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 03-11-2010, 06:14 AM

Keep in mind that DJ has had pure SHIT for coaching ever since he was drafted. I believe he needs to be allowed to go to the ball from his basic instinct rather than force him to have to overthink his responsibilities. I've heard football analysts state that before that many players are atheletes first and if they are forced to think everything out it takes away from their game. Now that we have Romeo he'll be given a fair chance under a good DC. This year will be a new beginning or his last as a Chief. JMO

TRR · 03-11-2010, 07:33 AM

I remember training camp last year where DJ was pulled from practice to the punishment area, and he was having a hard time carrying a 10 pound weight while doing lunges every 5 yards. I remember posting in my camp updates that he looked like he never lifted a weight before, and was completely out of shape.

God given ability can only take you so far. DJ needs to finally grow up, get in shape, and be a leader on Defense. Or, he can just let his personal life ruin his career.
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**BigRedChief** · 03-11-2010, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

I'm pretty sure that the 1st round tender is being used as a starting off point for trade negotiations. If someone offers them a 2nd round pick....I don't see them turning it down.

Never underestimate a coaches affinity for a player clouding his judgement.

Hootie · 03-11-2010, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Nope

want to bet?

**Iowanian** · 03-11-2010, 07:51 AM

hold your horses, I was assured that without a doubt DJ would NOT be a Chief this year by someone who has secrets.

Hootie · 03-11-2010, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian

hold your horses, I was assured that without a doubt DJ would NOT be a Chief this year by someone who has secrets.

lol

DumbHillbillies · 03-11-2010, 07:58 AM

I think it is very unlikely he will start because sadly he is what he is. I think/hope the first round tender was for negiotiating compensation for whomever was enamored with that denver game. Point blank I am close to given up on dj, he misses too many tackles and is too soft.

DumbHillbillies · 03-11-2010, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I'd gladly take a 2nd for DJ.

So would pioli, i think it would go something like this....

Suckers: I'll give you a sec..

Pioli: DEAL !!!!!!!!!!! (Pioli nuts in his pants)

Suckers: Well that was fast.

Pioli: No reneging or you will be sleeping with the fishes.

CoMoChief · 03-11-2010, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by kepp

That depends on if Weatherspoon holds out or not.

We aren't drafting him

Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan · 03-11-2010, 08:42 AM

I would say that's completely up to DJ.

Does he want to start badly enough that he plays (and practices) like a starter? Does he continue to be inconsistent and give the coaches reason to believe he's not serious?

He has the talent.
Does he have the heart?

JOhn · 03-11-2010, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan

He has the talent.
Does he have the heart?

THIS

It all boils down to that

RedThat · 03-11-2010, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer

Keep in mind that DJ has had pure SHIT for coaching ever since he was drafted. I believe he needs to be allowed to go to the ball from his basic instinct rather than force him to have to overthink his responsibilities. I've heard football analysts state that before that many players are atheletes first and if they are forced to think everything out it takes away from their game. Now that we have Romeo he'll be given a fair chance under a good DC. This year will be a new beginning or his last as a Chief. JMO

This is the part that interests me. You're right, he's had bad coaching throughout his career, and Im curious to see how he performs under a competent defensive co-ordinator.

But then again, who knows? Keith Bulluck is a good LBer, and look who coached him? Maybe it's just the player? I don't know. Just want to see how he responds under Crennel. If he is still the same guy, then yeah, he is what he is.

03-10-2010, 04:47 PM
RedThat Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Earth Casino cash: $10004900	Does DJ start for us this year? Im curious to know the opinions of some. He received first-round tender that should speak high volumes about how this organization feels about him. DJ has always been one of those real interesting players to me who shows both flashes talent and playmaking ability at times. But he also displays a lack of consistency, and is not a fundamentally sound football player. He makes too many mental errors on the field. That side has got the best of him. Im just wondering if his performance against the Broncos and his playmaking ability throughout the year was a good enough sign or indication to convince the coaching staff that they'll give him his chance to start. And so they should. He is arguably a lot more talented then Mays and Williams and is one of the few guys we have on defense that can actually make plays. Plus, I'd like to see how he performs or is utilized under Crennel. He has disappointed me thus far into his career simply because I believe he needs to work more on the fundamental aspects of his game and has to be mentally tougher as a player. Could he do this by maturing and by being with the right coach? I just think its clear he is not a sound player, but hopefully that can come with time. I hope he fully develops and Im glad the Chiefs didn't give up on him.
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Hog's Gone Fishin Fish are scared of me Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $-1469523	Keep in mind that DJ has had pure SHIT for coaching ever since he was drafted. I believe he needs to be allowed to go to the ball from his basic instinct rather than force him to have to overthink his responsibilities. I've heard football analysts state that before that many players are atheletes first and if they are forced to think everything out it takes away from their game. Now that we have Romeo he'll be given a fair chance under a good DC. This year will be a new beginning or his last as a Chief. JMO
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TRR The Priest and I Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: CO Casino cash: $9460185	I remember training camp last year where DJ was pulled from practice to the punishment area, and he was having a hard time carrying a 10 pound weight while doing lunges every 5 yards. I remember posting in my camp updates that he looked like he never lifted a weight before, and was completely out of shape. God given ability can only take you so far. DJ needs to finally grow up, get in shape, and be a leader on Defense. Or, he can just let his personal life ruin his career. Posted via Mobile Device
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DumbHillbillies He-Haw ! He-Haw ! Join Date: Jul 2008 Casino cash: $10004925	I think it is very unlikely he will start because sadly he is what he is. I think/hope the first round tender was for negiotiating compensation for whomever was enamored with that denver game. Point blank I am close to given up on dj, he misses too many tackles and is too soft.
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03-11-2010, 08:42 AM	#28
Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan I am Number Six Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Columbia, MD, USA Casino cash: $-1390000	I would say that's completely up to DJ. Does he want to start badly enough that he plays (and practices) like a starter? Does he continue to be inconsistent and give the coaches reason to believe he's not serious? He has the talent. Does he have the heart? __________________ One of the lowest PPD of any of the original members of the Planet . . . and proud of it. My web site My writer's page
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