News KC closing half its schools--wow - Page 8

oldandslow · 03-11-2010, 05:38 AM

This may need to go into DC...

still, I think this is an amazing and disturbing thing to happen.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/03/11/mis...html?hpt=T1CNN) -- The superintendent calls it the "Right-Size" plan," but many Kansas City, Missouri, residents say it's plain wrong.

Superintendent John Covington called for the closing or consolidation of almost half of the city's public schools. A divided Kansas City school board voted Wednesday to approve the downsizing.

A packed room of people watched the board make its historic move after weeks of debate and years of declining enrollment. Some parents voiced their anger, while some students cried.

"I have an 8-year-old and a 6-year-old that will be going to school with 12th graders. I find that very inappropriate. I don't feel my children will be safe," Deneicia Williams told CNN affiliate KSHB-TV.

"I feel like I have nothing, I have no high school legacy. I feel like I have nothing, nothing to go back to," said Prince Jones, a senior, who will be part of the final graduating class at Westport High School.

Covington proposed the "Right-Size" plan arguing that the financial future of the entire school district was at stake. The plan shutters 28 of Kansas City's 61 public schools, cuts 700 jobs and saves $50 million to help reduce a burgeoning deficit.

Some called Kansas City's measures draconian but school districts across America, hit hard by budget cuts, have been struggling to make ends meet.

They have had to make tough choices between closures, program cuts, bus route cancellations and layoffs of teachers and staff. Schools in at least 17 states have opted for four-day weeks.

Covington said the closures were the first phase of "right-sizing" a district where enrollments have plummeted from over 35,000 in the 1999-2000 school year to about 17,000 in 2009-10.

"Closing schools is hard - and it is tough on the community," Covington said recently in remarks posted on the superintendent's Web site.

"Closing schools and making the remaining schools much stronger academically is unquestionably the right thing to do for kids," he said. "Keeping all of the schools open with too few children in them is draining the resources we need to improve the education of all students."

But four of the nine board members disagreed with Covington.

"I deserve the right to make a rational decision based on facts, and we were never given facts about student achievement," Cokethea Hill, who voted against the closings, told KHSB.

Some members of the public showed up Wednesday to air their last-minute appeals.

"What I'm asking you today to do is to give our children justice," said Ron Hunt, a community activist.

Others worried that school closures would lead to deterioration of communities and drive residents out of the district.

"The blighting of the urban core is scandalous and shameful," said Sharon Sanders Brooks.

Covington is slated to discuss the school closings at a news conference Thursday morning.

Garcia Bronco · 03-11-2010, 05:11 PM

JHC, The schools are half-full and monay doesn't grow on trees.

13and3 · 03-11-2010, 05:23 PM

90 students per teacher aught to be sufficient, to save money. Lets just put k-12 in same class, seeing as the high schoolers only read at a 4th grade level anyway. I got good ideas too. I could be on that school board.

BryanBusby · 03-11-2010, 05:35 PM

This thread seems to be a shit post magnet.

ClevelandBronco · 03-11-2010, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby

This thread seems to be a shit post magnet.

I'll work on a rabid anti-teacher rant then.

BryanBusby · 03-11-2010, 05:58 PM

sounds good

**gblowfish** · 03-11-2010, 06:28 PM

I'm a graduate of the KCMSD. I graduated in 1977. Desegregation began in 1978.

**Saul Good** · 03-11-2010, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

From an argumentative standpoint, you ****ing reerun.

Jesus, learn to read.

It's a case study on how liberalism run amok is an abject disaster. It has nothing to do with conservatives or conservatism. It's not a conservative's dream come true. It's a conservative's worst nightmare. The only "good" to come out of it for conservatives will be if people learn from this mistake. In reading this thread, it's pretty clear that people on this board learn from their mistakes about as well as KCMO students learn from their schools.

BWillie · 03-11-2010, 07:09 PM

I don't quite understand how it is all the schools fault. I don't claim to have grew up in the inner city, but I think it has more to do w/ the parents encouraging their kids in the right direction than the schools. Sure the schools have culpability, but at some point you take control of your life. I don't see any White American Scholarships or grants out there.

**Saul Good** · 03-11-2010, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie007

I don't quite understand how it is all the schools fault. I don't claim to have grew up in the inner city, but I think it has more to do w/ the parents encouraging their kids in the right direction than the schools. Sure the schools have culpability, but at some point you take control of your life. I don't see any White American Scholarships or grants out there.

You don't get a cluster of this magnitude without blame on all parties. The system doesn't reward excellence. It just rewards tenure. When performance isn't incentivized, this is what you're left with.

GloryDayz · 03-11-2010, 09:03 PM

Any link to where the math shows the savings? Both sides of the ledger, the side that shows what's cut, and the side that shows what costs go up?

KChiefs1 · 03-11-2010, 10:54 PM

Right-sizing is the new code word for....you're F@CKED.

Extra Point · 03-12-2010, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish

I'm a graduate of the KCMSD. I graduated in 1977. Desegregation began in 1978.

I hear an echo.

Pioli Zombie · 03-12-2010, 05:26 AM

In Olathe parents complain when a brand new school is built and their precious little tykes are "forced" to go to the shiny new Taj Mahal up the street that just raised the value of their home by $20,000.
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blaise · 03-12-2010, 05:51 AM

I don't see why lowering your overhead is so wrong. If a school built 30 years ago now only has half as many students attending why should you keep paying to keep it open when you can combine two schools?

03-11-2010, 05:38 AM
oldandslow Veteran Join Date: Apr 2004 Casino cash: $3773149	KC closing half its schools--wow This may need to go into DC... still, I think this is an amazing and disturbing thing to happen. http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/03/11/mis...html?hpt=T1CNN) -- The superintendent calls it the "Right-Size" plan," but many Kansas City, Missouri, residents say it's plain wrong. Superintendent John Covington called for the closing or consolidation of almost half of the city's public schools. A divided Kansas City school board voted Wednesday to approve the downsizing. A packed room of people watched the board make its historic move after weeks of debate and years of declining enrollment. Some parents voiced their anger, while some students cried. "I have an 8-year-old and a 6-year-old that will be going to school with 12th graders. I find that very inappropriate. I don't feel my children will be safe," Deneicia Williams told CNN affiliate KSHB-TV. "I feel like I have nothing, I have no high school legacy. I feel like I have nothing, nothing to go back to," said Prince Jones, a senior, who will be part of the final graduating class at Westport High School. Covington proposed the "Right-Size" plan arguing that the financial future of the entire school district was at stake. The plan shutters 28 of Kansas City's 61 public schools, cuts 700 jobs and saves $50 million to help reduce a burgeoning deficit. Some called Kansas City's measures draconian but school districts across America, hit hard by budget cuts, have been struggling to make ends meet. They have had to make tough choices between closures, program cuts, bus route cancellations and layoffs of teachers and staff. Schools in at least 17 states have opted for four-day weeks. Covington said the closures were the first phase of "right-sizing" a district where enrollments have plummeted from over 35,000 in the 1999-2000 school year to about 17,000 in 2009-10. "Closing schools is hard - and it is tough on the community," Covington said recently in remarks posted on the superintendent's Web site. "Closing schools and making the remaining schools much stronger academically is unquestionably the right thing to do for kids," he said. "Keeping all of the schools open with too few children in them is draining the resources we need to improve the education of all students." But four of the nine board members disagreed with Covington. "I deserve the right to make a rational decision based on facts, and we were never given facts about student achievement," Cokethea Hill, who voted against the closings, told KHSB. Some members of the public showed up Wednesday to air their last-minute appeals. "What I'm asking you today to do is to give our children justice," said Ron Hunt, a community activist. Others worried that school closures would lead to deterioration of communities and drive residents out of the district. "The blighting of the urban core is scandalous and shameful," said Sharon Sanders Brooks. Covington is slated to discuss the school closings at a news conference Thursday morning.
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13and3 R8R H8R Join Date: Aug 2005 Casino cash: $9996027	90 students per teacher aught to be sufficient, to save money. Lets just put k-12 in same class, seeing as the high schoolers only read at a 4th grade level anyway. I got good ideas too. I could be on that school board.
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blaise In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Plano, TX Casino cash: $9989900	I don't see why lowering your overhead is so wrong. If a school built 30 years ago now only has half as many students attending why should you keep paying to keep it open when you can combine two schools?
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