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Old 03-16-2010, 10:17 AM  
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Peter King: The Chiefs will never take a safety that high
I hope that ****nut is wrong but I am sure I will be disappointed if Berry is there and they pass unless they decide to draft Clausen.

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I noticed last night SI's Peter King was tweeting up a storm at his Twitter account about all things football for a few hours. One very interesting observation came out of him that I think would surprise a lot of us here.
Someone suggested the Chiefs trade with the Dolphins, who are in need of a playmaking safety. King, who agreed with a Miami/Kansas City trade scenario, had this to say:
"And KC would never take [safety] that high."
Now, King's one of the best in the business when it comes to sports reporting, especially the NFL and that sounds like a pretty definitive statement.

With that said, I see his logic. Scott Pioli has always struck me as a guy who's more likely to build from the inside out meaning the focus is on the offensive and defensive lines.

Just something to keep in mind as we inch toward April.
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Old 03-17-2010, 09:09 AM   #316
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Why not FINALLY address the need for a franchise caliber left tackle that can anchor the line for the next 10 years?
BECAUSE THEY DID THAT TWO YEARS AGO YOU DUMB ****
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Old 03-17-2010, 09:12 AM   #317
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everybody knows we drafted Albert to be a longsnapper this is how the conversation went down:

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Herm: Its gonna be OK Gun, look Virginias got this guy. What do you think?

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Herm: Send the pick in.
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Old 03-17-2010, 09:13 AM   #318
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Even with the signings of Lilja and Weigmann, the Chiefs have dire needs at both tackle positions and no long term solutions in place for Waters and Weigmann who are both, at their respective ages playing on borrowed time.

Why not FINALLY address the need for a franchise caliber left tackle that can anchor the line for the next 10 years?
Wow just could not disagree more. For starters I completely disagree that we have dire needs at both tackle positions.

Brandon Albert made real good strides towards the end of the season. We don't know if he can't be the guy at LT. He was getting better. And RT was a rotating door until Ryan was put in there. Todd Haley even said in an interview that he was pleased with Ryan's play. I think Todd likes him there more than some might realize.

And given that Brandon was playing well towards the end of his 2nd season, (played much better in Dec and shut down Dumervil). Are you seriously willing to give up on a mid 1st rounder after 2 years?

And trust me. Moving a mid first rounder expected play LT to Guard is giving on on a guy.

How can you be sure a rookie is going to play LT any better than Brandon?

The problem last year was the lack of running game resulting in a ton of 3rd and longs. That got solved with Jamaal taking Larry's place and the interior line was a problem. Particularly Center and RG.
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Old 03-17-2010, 09:18 AM   #319
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Old 03-17-2010, 09:22 AM   #320
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Theres divided opinion on whether or not hes a true franchise LT.
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Old 03-17-2010, 09:25 AM   #321
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I want Berry or Clausen at #5.....but I'm not getting my hopes up. I'm sure they'll draft an OT at #5.....and once again I'll have to wonder if this front office has their heads up their asses.
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Old 03-17-2010, 09:36 AM   #322
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I want Berry or Clausen at #5.....but I'm not getting my hopes up. I'm sure they'll draft an OT at #5.....and once again I'll have to wonder if this front office has their heads up their asses.
I'm beginning to lean towards them trading down and taking a linebacker. Pioli comes from a background that loves to draft linebackers high. And he needs one, bad.
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I'm beginning to lean towards them trading down and taking a linebacker. Pioli comes from a background that loves to draft linebackers high. And he needs one, bad.
Really.

There's Jarod Mayo and........
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When they're amazing prospects, they get picked high in the draft. It's like any position (with the exception of some of the lesser positions).

Sean Taylor went 5th overall. He was an incredible prospect. Eric Berry is that level. He's totally worth the 5th overall pick in the draft. No question.
ST was a once in a lifetime prospect. Size,speed,strength,high football IQ, could cover the run with the force of a linebacker & cover the pass with the skill of an elite corner.
Berry while very good is not even in the same ballpark as ST.
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As a matter of fact, in checking out the Patriot drafts since 2000, Mayo is their only 1st round LB, and they have only two other LBs that have been selected in the first three rounds (Shawn Crable '08 and Tyronne Mckenzie in '09, both third rounders in their respective draft class ).
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Really.

There's Jarod Mayo and........
Look at Parcells' draft history.
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I'm beginning to lean towards them trading down and taking a linebacker. Pioli comes from a background that loves to draft linebackers high. And he needs one, bad.
Seriously??

You would rather a linebacker than Claussen, Okung or Berry??
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That's reaching.
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Seriously??

You would rather a linebacker than Claussen, Okung or Berry??
I can't speak for GC, but rather than Okung, you bet.
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I can't speak for GC, but rather than Okung, you bet.
im really not up on how all the positions grade out...

But it all depends on how deep this draft is at certain positions.

For instance, is Okung really that much better than a 2nd or 3rd round guy? Is Berry? Is Claussen? If not, then yea, i would pass and try and drop down if possible.

If im a GM and felt that one of them was a "special" talent, then no..you shouldnt pass on guys like that.
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