Check this out: [8.4.2010 5792261] Notice of Copyright Infringement

[Reerun_KC]

Okay this is funny.. My son and I downloaded this movie about 3 months ago and watched it... Nice to see they are on top of things...

Dear Customer,
This message is to advise that Cox Communications has received a notice claiming that you are using your Cox High Speed Internet service to post or transmit material in violation of U.S. Copyright law. We have included a copy of the complaint, which identifies the party raising it and the material claimed to be infringing.
We ask that you review the complaint and, if it is valid, promptly remove or disable access to the infringing material. If you disagree with the claims in the notice, you should contact the sender, and not Cox, to resolve the matter.
As an Internet Service Provider, Cox is responsible, under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act ("DMCA"), to advise when we receive a notice asserting infringement by you. We are also required to take appropriate action if further claims are received that you do not resolve.
The material that you post or share online is your responsibility. Cox encourages responsible Internet use, but we do not monitor nor control the information you share. We have a duty, however, to take progressive steps when we received complaints of infringement.
If we continue to receive infringement claims such as this one, concerning your use of our service, we will suspend your account and disable your Internet connection until you confirm you have removed the infringing material.
To learn more about your responsibilities concerning copyrighted material, please refer to our help article at:
http://support.cox.com/sdccommon/asp...a-4c6448f22d05
http://www.respectcopyrights.org/
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Cox Customer Security
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Notice ID: 22-94125217
Notice Date: 4 Aug 2010 20:33:17 GMT
Cox Communications Inc.
Dear Sir or Madam:
BayTSP, Inc. ("BayTSP") swears under penalty of perjury that Paramount Pictures Corporation/Dreamworks Animation SKG, Inc. ("Paramount/Dreamworks") has authorized BayTSP to act as its non-exclusive agent for copyright infringement notification. BayTSP's search of the protocol listed below has detected infringements of Paramount/Dreamworks' copyright interests on your IP addresses as detailed in the below report.
BayTSP has reasonable good faith belief that use of the material in the manner complained of in the below report is not authorized by Paramount/Dreamworks, its agents, or the law. The information provided herein is accurate to the best of our knowledge. Therefore, this letter is an official notification to effect removal of the detected infringement listed in the below report. The below documentation specifies the exact location of the
We hereby request that you immediately remove or block access to the infringing material, as specified in the copyright laws, and insure the user refrains from using or sharing with others unauthorized Paramount/Dreamworks' materials in the future (see, 17 U.S.C. 512).
Further, we believe that the entire Internet community benefits when these matters are resolved cooperatively. We urge you to take immediate action to stop this infringing activity and inform us of the results of your actions. We appreciate your efforts toward this common goal.
Please respond indicating the actions you have taken to resolve this matter. The provided link has been assigned to this matter. http://webreply.baytsp.com/webreply/...20a281a16c618a
For email correspondence, please reference the above Notice ID in the subject line. mailtoaramount@copyright-compliance.com?subject=RE%3A%20Notice%20ID%3A%2022%2D94125217%20Notice%20of%20Unauthorized%20Use%20o f%20Paramount%20Pictures%20Corporation%2FDreamworks%20Animation%20SKG%2C%20Inc%2E%20Property
Nothing in this letter shall serve as a waiver of any rights or remedies of Paramount/Dreamworks with respect to the alleged infringement, all of which are expressly reserved. Should you need to contact me, I may be reached at the below address.
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BayTSP, Inc.
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Evidentiary Information:
Notice ID: 22-94125217
Initial Infringement Timestamp: 4 Aug 2010 18:15:32 GMT
Recent Infringement Timestamp: 4 Aug 2010 18:15:32 GMT
Infringers IP Address: 68.12.209.193
Protocol: BitTorrent
Infringed Work: Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen
Infringing File Name: Transformers 2 Revenge Of The Fallen DVDRip XviD-MAXSPEED
Infringing File Size: 1469734654
Bay ID: 19abc3ebf9ca970b72520f4eb430d93e340b368e|1469734654
Port ID: 52080
Infringer's DNS Name: ip68-12-209-193.ok.ok.cox.net
Infringer's User Name:
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[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

It's not an opinion, Dummy.

You're BREAKING THE LAW.

You still going to be my friend?

[Reaper16]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I fully disagree.

I rarely, if ever, hear a "great" young musician.

Most don't have a style or sound of their own and most can't play outside of their specific genre. That doesn't meet the "great" test, IMO.

If we break it down further, there is no EVH, Randy Rhodes, Gary Moore, Yngwie Malmsteen, Steve Vai or Warren DeMartini of the past decade. No player that has transcended the genre and taken guitar to new heights.

There is no Neil Peart, Keith Moon, John Bonham or even Matt Cameron in the past decade.

There hasn't been a bassist with the impact of Chris Squire, Geddy Lee, Steve Harris, Billy Sheehan or John Entwhistle, let alone Jaco, Jeff Berlin or Stu Hamm.

And don't get me started on singers, Autotune and Melodyne.

It is just not the same.

You seem to have a bias towards virtuoso musicianship and against stuff like hip-hop or electronic music.

Take, for instance, the guys in Agalloch (IMO the best band in America or any genre). None of them are virtuoso musicians but they play brilliant music. Should I be using a different phrase to describe these non-virtuoso players? Are there simply plenty of great "music players" as opposed to "musicians?" I don't know. What I do know is that there is a tremendous deal of excellent music out there these days, a lot of it being seventeen trillion times better than, say, Alter Bridge (a band I mention only because you vigorously defended them here once).

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

This is ****ing bullshit.

So, because the music and movie industry didn't come up with a solution that you were happy with, the fact that the industry lost billions is suddenly okay?

Gimme a ****ing break.

They didn't and still haven't come up with a solution ANYONE is happy with. That is why Apple was able to fill the void and pretty much owns the record companies until they can some how manage to pull their collective heads out of their asses.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Reaper16

You seem to have a bias towards virtuoso musicianship and against stuff like hip-hop or electronic music.

Take, for instance, the guys in Agalloch (IMO the best band in America or any genre). None of them are virtuoso musicians but they play brilliant music. Should I be using a different phrase to describe these non-virtuoso players? Are there simply plenty of great "music players" as opposed to "musicians?" I don't know. What I do know is that there is a tremendous deal of excellent music out there these days, a lot of it being seventeen trillion times better than, say, Alter Bridge (a band I mention only because you vigorously defended them here once).

Music is a matter of taste.

Being a great player is not.

You specifically mentioned "great players". Well, they just don't exist in today's music. There are no groundbreaking guitarists, bassist, drummers or singers. For the most part, these guys can barely ****ing play their instruments or sing, AT ALL.

Pro Tools and programs like it give audio engineers and producers unprecedented means to alter recorded sound. Drummer can't play in time? Use Beat Detective. Drums were poorly recorded? Use Sound Replacer and choose from thousands of well recorded drum samples.

Can't play your guitar or bass? Shift them in time. Can't tune? Use Melodyne Editor to properly tune. Can't get a "proper" guitar or bass sound? Take a direct signal and re-amp into a great sounding rig.

Can't sing? Use Melodyne or Autotune to "magically" put singers in time and in proper pitch.

All of this has led to bands that can't play, but yet sell records (i.e. Jonas Brothers, et al).

And you're probably right: I don't have much respect for people making electronic music because all it takes is a computer and a few software programs to "create" music, even though the majority of that music uses loops, prerecorded beats and pre-programmed arpeggios.

Again, go ahead an name some "great players" from this past decade.

[ElGringo]

I pirate pretty much any movie I want to watch, and do pirate TV shows. I however have the option of doing this, not watching the things I like (well, for the TV shows anyway) or go to the local vendor and buy their pirated copy (which is almost always a very low quality). I admit my circumstances don't meet others, but someone tell me, what other option should I take. Netflix and others are not an option as I have no credit/debit card, and can not get one as an american in Mexico I can't have a bank account. Hulu and the like are also not an option as they are limited to only users in the United States.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

They didn't and still haven't come up with a solution ANYONE is happy with. That is why Apple was able to fill the void and pretty much owns the record companies until they can some how manage to pull their collective heads out of their asses.

Give me a ****ing BREAK.

iTunes did more than a BILLION dollars in downloads last year. Amazon's numbers are consistently trending upwards.

Netflix and Redbox are HUGE.

You need to pull YOUR head out of your ass.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

They didn't and still haven't come up with a solution ANYONE is happy with. That is why Apple was able to fill the void and pretty much owns the record companies until they can some how manage to pull their collective heads out of their asses.

For ****'s Sake, "Owns the record companies"?



Don't you realize that without the licenses given by the record companies and publishers, iTunes and Amazon's service would not exist?

Apple keeps 35% of each downloaded sale. The other 65% is split between the record companies and publishers. Furthermore, not everything is available via iTunes because many artists don't want their music sold in an mp3 format.

You really don't know what you're talking about.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Give me a ****ing BREAK.

iTunes did more than a BILLION dollars in downloads last year. Amazon's numbers are consistently trending upwards.

Netflix and Redbox are HUGE.

You need to pull YOUR head out of your ass.

What? Apple owns Itunes not the record companies. Amazon owns their service not the record companies. I am talking about the record companies and even the movie industry owning their own service to distribute their content electronically.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

What? Apple owns Itunes not the record companies. Amazon owns their service not the record companies. I am talking about the record companies and even the movie industry owning their own service to distribute their content electronically.

You're missing the point, entirely.

Apple appealed to the record companies because it meant that they would stay in the record business and not get caught up in digital distribution.

It was a win-win for both.

Movie studios and record companies aren't interested and have never been interested in setting up digital distribution. I can guarantee that they're more than happy with iTunes and Amazon as their distributors and it's virtually no different than the "middleman" that used to exist in the analog world.

Why do you think the prices went from $14.99 and up to $7.99-$9.99? They cut out the Middleman in terms of distribution. CD's were sold for $8 a pop to middlemen who then sold them to retail outlets.

Those days are long gone.

[CaliforniaChief]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Again, go ahead an name some "great players" from this past decade.

YOU, sir...are in serious need of Bieber Fever.

[Reaper16]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Music is a matter of taste.

Being a great player is not.

You specifically mentioned "great players". Well, they just don't exist in today's music. There are no groundbreaking guitarists, bassist, drummers or singers. For the most part, these guys can barely ****ing play their instruments or sing, AT ALL.

Pro Tools and programs like it give audio engineers and producers unprecedented means to alter recorded sound. Drummer can't play in time? Use Beat Detective. Drums were poorly recorded? Use Sound Replacer and choose from thousands of well recorded drum samples.

Can't play your guitar or bass? Shift them in time. Can't tune? Use Melodyne Editor to properly tune. Can't get a "proper" guitar or bass sound? Take a direct signal and re-amp into a great sounding rig.

Can't sing? Use Melodyne or Autotune to "magically" put singers in time and in proper pitch.

All of this has led to bands that can't play, but yet sell records (i.e. Jonas Brothers, et al).

And you're probably right: I don't have much respect for people making electronic music because all it takes is a computer and a few software programs to "create" music, even though the majority of that music uses loops, prerecorded beats and pre-programmed arpeggios.

Again, go ahead an name some "great players" from this past decade.

We're getting off on a tangent, as you see "great musician" defined as virtuoso-type players. That's fine, but much different than the point I was trying to make. There are plenty of excellent bands out there. There may be very few individual people who were doing "groundbreaking" things with their particular instrument but, of course, there is a large gulf of difference between a virtuoso player and the Jonas Bros. One need only look to bands like Sigur Ros, Godspeed You! Black Emperor or maudlin of the Well to see that there were bands in the '00s that were redefining what sounds can come from rock instrumentation. One need only look to The Lord Weird Slough Feg, Sigh, Opeth, The White Stripes, The Mars Volta, Mastodon, Ulver or TV on the Radio to see the innovation and ability to marry different genres into fresh, organic music. And that's to say nothing of the tremendous creativity coming out of hip-hop and electronic-based music.

In that enormous pocket between Steve Vai and having all your shit over-processed in Pro Tools because you can't actually play there is so much great stuff to listen to. I can mail you CDs (store bought, non-burned, actual releases) if you're against a peek on YouTube.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Reaper16

We're getting off on a tangent, as you see "great musician" defined as virtuoso-type players. That's fine, but much different than the point I was trying to make. There are plenty of excellent bands out there. There may be very few individual people who were doing "groundbreaking" things with their particular instrument but, of course, there is a large gulf of difference between a virtuoso player and the Jonas Bros. One need only look to bands like Sigur Ros, Godspeed You! Black Emperor or maudlin of the Well to see that there were bands in the '00s that were redefining what sounds can come from rock instrumentation. One need only look to The Lord Weird Slough Feg, Sigh, Opeth, The White Stripes, The Mars Volta, Mastodon, Ulver or TV on the Radio to see the innovation and ability to marry different genres into fresh, organic music. And that's to say nothing of the tremendous creativity coming out of hip-hop and electronic-based music.

In that enormous pocket between Steve Vai and having all your shit over-processed in Pro Tools because you can't actually play there is so much great stuff to listen to. I can mail you CDs (store bought, non-burned, actual releases) if you're against a peek on YouTube.

Dude, you said "Great Players". I disagreed.

A "Great Player" is someone who can walk into a recording studio and immediately record the "Perfect Take", whether it's a singer, guitarist, drummer, bassist, etc. A "Great Player" is a guy like Larry Carlton or Dean Parks, guys who've been on more than 500 albums each.

The ability to play or write a song doesn't automatically make someone a "great player". Being able to "play" should be a given.

The ability of a "great player" is far beyond that.

[MTG#10]

Originally Posted by Omaha

If I steal a Mac, can I claim it's not stealing because I'd never actually BUY a Mac? Hell no!

If you can actually figure out a way to "download a mac" without any physical property being taken from anyone then no you wouldn't be stealing it in my opinion.

Originally Posted by Omaha

That's actually not an opinion. That's the law.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

It's not an opinion, Dummy.

You're BREAKING THE LAW.

Smoking pot is against the law too, but Im sure neither of you have ever done that either have you? I never said it wasnt illegal, but from a morality standpoint i dont believe its stealing.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

You're missing the point, entirely.

Apple appealed to the record companies because it meant that they would stay in the record business and not get caught up in digital distribution.

It was a win-win for both.

Movie studios and record companies aren't interested and have never been interested in setting up digital distribution. I can guarantee that they're more than happy with iTunes and Amazon as their distributors and it's virtually no different than the "middleman" that used to exist in the analog world.

Why do you think the prices went from $14.99 and up to $7.99-$9.99? They cut out the Middleman in terms of distribution. CD's were sold for $8 a pop to middlemen who then sold them to retail outlets.

Those days are long gone.

No I understand the point completely.

My point was because the record companies were very slow to react when everyone was yelling and screaming that they needed to build their own service because they were getting killed by pirating and Napster.

Apple came along and saved their bacon. Apple is now the #1 retailer for music in the world and just last year they sold over 2.4 billion songs. That is what I mean by own because Apple knows that the music labels aren't dumb enough to cut them off now and piss off half the world who have Ipods. People would just go back to pirating and they know that.

[Reaper16]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Dude, you said "Great Players". I disagreed.

A "Great Player" is someone who can walk into a recording studio and immediately record the "Perfect Take", whether it's a singer, guitarist, drummer, bassist, etc. A "Great Player" is a guy like Larry Carlton or Dean Parks, guys who've been on more than 500 albums each.

The ability to play or write a song doesn't automatically make someone a "great player". Being able to "play" should be a given.

The ability of a "great player" is far beyond that.

That's fair, and instead of further belaboring what is entirely a semantics argument I'll change my language to better reflect the irrefutable point I wanted to make in the first place: there is lots of good, valuable music from last decade and there are lots of good, valuable bands from last decade.