The Browns: Trap Game

[Direckshun]

Anybody else getting a bad feeling about this Browns game?

We have ourselves a short week, after an incredibly emotional loss. The Browns are not a talented team, but I feel like the youth on this team makes us susceptible to a let down.

Anybody here follow the Browns closely? What are we getting into this week, besides a madhouse that should rival Arrowhead last week?

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by milkman

Spin things?



You are one naive mother****er.

I would have to go to spin school for years to learn to spin things as proficiently as NFL coaches.

They are spin masters.

One would have to be if he took anything serious from this site....

[beer bacon]

Really?

[LaChapelle]

It's wednesday and no Browns fans talking shit yet
If the helmet toss game won't quiet their smack
a loss to the Bucs sure won't

[Chief3188]

I am worried about every game on our schedule as every Chiefs fan should be. Gone are the days where we can look at our schedule and say that should be an easy game because unfortunately we are until proven otherwise the team now that every other fan of good teams look at on their schedule and now say that should be an easy game.

Granted there are some games where I have the expectation of us going and getting our asses handed to us even with our improvement of the last 2 years where we just don't match up.

I thought last night was going to be one of those games but I had no idea our defense could play that well as I did not think we were that good yet and maybe we aren't but I think we are alot further along that many of us myself included thought they were.

[Chief3188]

Originally Posted by lcarus

I honestly think we can play better than we did against SD. We missed a few huge opportunities to score in that game.

Agreed. People just need to realize that we were good enough to beat SD in Week 1. We have just as much if not more upside to improve throughout the season than most teams as our team gets comfortable with their schemes and with playing with each other.

Granted it sucks there is nothing we can really do about Cassel right now but hopefully we will have a nice base of players to surround a new QB with next season.

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by Chief3188

Agreed. People just need to realize that we were good enough to beat SD in Week 1. We have just as much if not more upside to improve throughout the season than most teams as our team gets comfortable with their schemes and with playing with each other.

We are Chief fans. We've bought into "improvement' dozens of times before only to be kicked in the nuts and sent spiraling back down to reality.

[Chief3188]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

We are Chief fans. We've bought into "improvement' dozens of times before only to be kicked in the nuts and sent spiraling back down to reality.

It's a difference to buy into the idea of improvement than to actually see it. I saw improvement from alot of players last night, I don't know about you.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Dave Lane

Why do "we all know it"? I'm really not sold on SF like many have been. I think they are a middle of the pack kinda team. I think being back at Arrowhead the fans will be back in crazy mode especially if we win in Cleveland. I think it's a push game.

I agree.

But with that said, this is a tough Chiefs team to gauge at this point. We know for certain that the Special Teams will be among the highest ranked units in the league, as will the running game.

But the question marks (and they are big questions, one game into the season) are the Defense and the Passing Game.

The defense looked unlike any other Chiefs defense this past decade and looked closer to an early to mid-90's Chiefs team. The intensity and ferocity was amazing to watch. Sure, there were a few mistakes made by Berry but that's to be expected in his first NFL game. The others, specifically DJ, Belcher, Dorsey, Smith and even Jackson, succeeded in playing as a focused, intense unit for the first time EVER. IF this trend continues, the Chiefs will be in every game this year and the defense will again put the offense in winning situations.

The bigger question is the passing game. We all saw how Cassel and the Chiefs struggled last year and in pre-season. They certainly struggled Monday night and I think everyone is aware that the Chiefs won't win many games with less than 75 yards passing.

I'd lean towards a Chiefs victory on Sunday against Cleveland but I think it'll take around eight games to answer these questions. And IF the Chiefs continue to play consistently on defense and the passing game continues to struggle, how long with Haley stick with Cassel?

[Chief3188]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I agree.

But with that said, this is a tough Chiefs team to gauge at this point. We know for certain that the Special Teams will be among the highest ranked units in the league, as will the running game.

But the question marks (and they are big questions, one game into the season) are the Defense and the Passing Game.

The defense looked unlike any other Chiefs defense this past decade and looked closer to an early to mid-90's Chiefs team. The intensity and ferocity was amazing to watch. Sure, there were a few mistakes made by Berry but that's to be expected in his first NFL game. The others, specifically DJ, Belcher, Dorsey, Smith and even Jackson, succeeded in playing as a focused, intense unit for the first time EVER. IF this trend continues, the Chiefs will be in every game this year and the defense will again put the offense in winning situations.

The bigger question is the passing game. We all saw how Cassel and the Chiefs struggled last year and in pre-season. They certainly struggled Monday night and I think everyone is aware that the Chiefs won't win many games with less than 75 yards passing.

I'd lean towards a Chiefs victory on Sunday against Cleveland but I think it'll take around eight games to answer these questions. And IF the Chiefs continue to play consistently on defense and the passing game continues to struggle, how long with Haley stick with Cassel?

I disagree about question marks in the passing game. I don't think there is any question that Haley, Pioli, Weis and even Clark know that they can't trust Cassel anymore. They gave him a shot and it was worth a 2nd round pick for him and Vrabel to try and find that guy but it just didn't work out. I believe they will limit him to being a game manager by mid-season as they confirm what they already know and then make a move next year whether in the draft, trade or FA to lead this team.

I think the question really lies with our WR's and TE's. Can these guys catch well enough to maybe hide some of Cassel's inefficiencies.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life

Who is worried about Berry? As a rook going up against Gates, I didn't expect him to have a great game. This week on the other hand. I think he shines!

I chalk it up to over-excitement. I think he was fired-up to the point that his emotion was getting the better of that super football brain he has. When he learns to play his game as the house is on fire, he'll be fine.

[Bane]

Originally Posted by Chief3188

I disagree about question marks in the passing game. I don't think there is any question that Haley, Pioli, Weis and even Clark know that they can't trust Cassel anymore. They gave him a shot and it was worth a 2nd round pick for him and Vrabel to try and find that guy but it just didn't work out. I believe they will limit him to being a game manager by mid-season as they confirm what they already know and then make a move next year whether in the draft, trade or FA to lead this team.

I think the question really lies with our WR's and TE's. Can these guys catch well enough to maybe hide some of Cassel's inefficiencies.

Absolutely impossible in todays pass happy NFL.

[Fat Elvis]

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

It means that Vegas expects us to lose by 2.

No, it means they think the betting will be about even, with the Browns being favored by two.

[Bane]

Originally Posted by ROR

I chalk it up to over-excitement. I think he was fired-up to the point that his emotion was getting the better of that super football brain he has. When he learns to play his game as the house is on fire, he'll be fine.

Hmmmmm.Pro bowl tandem QB/TE vs rookie S.... Nah it didn't bother me a bit.Rookies get schooled this way everyday,and the good ones learn from it.

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by Chief3188

I disagree about question marks in the passing game. I don't think there is any question that Haley, Pioli, Weis and even Clark know that they can't trust Cassel anymore. They gave him a shot and it was worth a 2nd round pick for him and Vrabel to try and find that guy but it just didn't work out. I believe they will limit him to being a game manager by mid-season as they confirm what they already know and then make a move next year whether in the draft, trade or FA to lead this team.

I think the question really lies with our WR's and TE's. Can these guys catch well enough to maybe hide some of Cassel's inefficiencies.

I think he is already a game manager. I would guess the only time they are going to ask Cassel to try and win a game is a game where we have to have a TD with not much time on the clock. I will be stuned if they allow Cassel to throw the ball all over the yard in an attempt to win from the opening coin toss. Even against Manning in 3 or 4 weeks.