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**jAZ** · 09-29-2010, 11:34 PM

Wow. Prank gone waaay wrong.

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/201...gers_post.html

Rutgers freshman is presumed dead in suicide after roommate broadcast gay sexual encounter online

Wednesday, September 29, 2010, 5:42 PM
Kelly Heyboer/ The Star-Ledger

PISCATAWAY — A Rutgers University freshman appears to have killed himself by jumping off the George Washington Bridge after his roommate broadcast live images of the 18-year-old having a sexual encounter with another man on the internet, according to campus and law enforcement sources.

Tyler Clementi, 18, of Ridgewood, is presumed dead after his car, cell phone and computer were found near the George Washington Bridge last week, law enforcement sources said. His wallet was found on the walkway adjacent to the New York-bound lanes. In a statement released this afternoon, Clementi’s family confirmed the suicide and said his body has not been found.

Dharun Ravi, 18, of Plainsboro, and Molly Wei, 18, of Princeton, were charged with two counts each of invasion of privacy for setting up a camera in a dorm room on Sept. 19 and using it to view and transmit a live sex scene, said Middlesex County Prosecutor Bruce Kaplan.

Paul Mainardi of Woodbury, the Clementi family's attorney, said Ravi and Clementi were roommates at Rutgers.

Ravi's Twitter feed on that date referred to seeing his roommate have sex with another man in their room on the Piscataway campus, classmates said.

"Roommate asked for the room till midnight. I went into molly's room and turned on my webcam. I saw him making out with a dude. Yay," Ravi said on his Twitter page in a Sept. 19 entry posted at 6:17 p.m.

Two days later, Ravi posted another entry directing his nearly 150 Twitter followers to iChat, an internet messaging service with a live video feed.

"Anyone with iChat, I dare you to video chat me between the hours of 9:30 and 12. Yes it's happening again," Ravi wrote in the Sept. 21 post.

Ravi's Twitter feed has since been taken down. But the entries survived in a cached version of the page still available through Google's search engine this afternoon.

Prosecutors said Ravi and Wei set up a camera on Sept. 19 and broadcast live images of Clementi having a "sexual encounter." Ravi is also accused of trying unsuccessfully to broadcast a second sex scene Sept. 21.

The Clementi family released a statement this afternoon. "Tyler was a fine young man, and a distinguished musician. The family is heartbroken beyond words. They respectfully request that they be given time to grieve their great loss and that their privacy at this painful time be respected by all," it said.

"The family and their representatives are cooperating fully with the ongoing criminal investigations of two Rutgers University students," the statement said.

Clementi was an accomplished violinist who had received a college scholarship from the Ridgewood Symphony Orchestra for his musicianship and leadership.
The violinist left a lasting impression with some in the Bergen County town, said Hiro Kagei, 17, who played in the orchestra with the teenager. A solo Clementi played in a concert last year "blew the audience away," he said.

"Now that he’ dead, it’s sad to think we won’t hear something like that anymore," Kagei said.

On the Rutgers campus, classmates described Clementi as quiet. At a mandatory dorm meeting called the day he was reported missing, only three students said they had spoken to Clementi since they moved into the dorm last month, according to students who were at the meeting.

Ravi and Wei — who were classmates at West Windsor-Plainsboro High School North before enrolling at Rutgers this fall — did not respond to e-mail requests to comment Tuesday. Steve Altman, Ravi’s attorney, also declined to comment.

Ravi surrendered to Rutgers police Tuesday and was released on $25,000 bail, the prosecutor’s office said. Wei surrendered to the campus police Monday and was released on her own recognizance.

Under New Jersey’s invasion-of-privacy laws, it is a fourth degree crime to collect or view images depicting nudity or sexual contact involving another individual without that person’s consent, the prosecutor said. It is a third degree crime to transmit or distribute the images.

If the students are convicted on a third degree offense they could face up to five years in prison each under state law. Conviction on a fourth-degree crime could lead to probation or up to 18 months in prison.

Otter · 09-30-2010, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by jjjayb

Okay, I'll play devil's advocate here. If this situation happened, but his roommate was broadcasting video of him banging an ugly chick, would you all still feel the same way?

Feel what way?

Chiefnj2 · 09-30-2010, 07:20 AM

Some of you younger people need to help me out.

When I go to youtube or collegehumor or places like that I see tons of videos and pictures of people making out, girls kissing, etc. I kind of assumed that people taping other people at college was kind of, I don't want to say common-place, so lets say not all that unusual.

I agree with whoever posted earlier, that if the kid was having sex with a girl he picked up, would it be a big deal?

**ChiTown** · 09-30-2010, 07:23 AM

We live in a completely ****ed up world. wow.

Al Bundy · 09-30-2010, 07:24 AM

He was a musician and played the violin, people in that industry wouldn't care that he was gay. But them other 2 were just plain stupid.

jidar · 09-30-2010, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Some of you younger people need to help me out.

When I go to youtube or collegehumor or places like that I see tons of videos and pictures of people making out, girls kissing, etc. I kind of assumed that people taping other people at college was kind of, I don't want to say common-place, so lets say not all that unusual.

I agree with whoever posted earlier, that if the kid was having sex with a girl he picked up, would it be a big deal?

This is the difference between reality and perception.

Yes it's a huge deal to video someone having sex and then give it out, it doesn't matter what the genders involved are. Let's put it this way, if someone was videoing people for his own enjoyment and spanking it then that would be pretty twisted right? Well isn't that what happens if it's broadcast but on a much wider scale? Or what do you think would happen if you hid cameras in a tanning booth? That's right, federal pound me in the ass, prison.

I'm actually a little bit surprised that this has to be explained, but I guess after American Pie it makes sense...

Bambi · 09-30-2010, 07:30 AM

This asshole wouldn't have filmed him if he wasn't gay. Apparently there was a repeating cycle of ridicule being directed towards him by being homosexual. Here's some more info on the story.

http://gawker.com/5651659/is-this-we...-call-for-help

Bambi · 09-30-2010, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by jidar

This is the difference between reality and perception.

Yes it's a huge deal to video someone having sex and then give it out, it doesn't matter what the genders involved are. Let's put it this way, if someone was videoing people for his own enjoyment and spanking it then that would be pretty twisted right? Well isn't that what happens if it's broadcast but on a much wider scale? Or what do you think would happen if you hid cameras in a tanning booth? That's right, federal pound me in the ass, prison.

I'm actually a little bit surprised that this has to be explained, but I guess after American Pie it makes sense...

American Pie is a movie. I can't believe some people on this board can't grasp that.

If someone filmed me having sex I don't know what I'd do.

Jenson71 · 09-30-2010, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by jjjayb

Okay, I'll play devil's advocate here. If this situation happened, but his roommate was broadcasting video of him banging an ugly chick, would you all still feel the same way?

In that case, I'd feel like the kid had some extreme chemical imbalance that made him completely irrational.

But in this case, I feel like the kid had some serious self-esteem issues and was acting completely irresponsible and immoral by ending his life. There is probably a good chance that some external factors came into play. Perhaps this kid was made fun of for "acting' gay a lot, or maybe his parents would have stopped paying for his education. I obviously don't know those things.

It's sad.

Jenson71 · 09-30-2010, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson

This asshole wouldn't have filmed him if he wasn't gay. Apparently there was a repeating cycle of ridicule being directed towards him by being homosexual. Here's some more info on the story.

http://gawker.com/5651659/is-this-we...-call-for-help

That was really interesting. Those posts, I'm pretty confident they're his, don't make it sound like he is incredibly disturbed by the events.

Chiefnj2 · 09-30-2010, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson

This asshole wouldn't have filmed him if he wasn't gay. Apparently there was a repeating cycle of ridicule being directed towards him by being homosexual. Here's some more info on the story.

http://gawker.com/5651659/is-this-we...-call-for-help

The story doesn't make it look so bad. He taped him once kissing a guy. The roommate found out about it and found the camera before the second encounter. He even continued to use the room and not talk to his roommate about it after the first attempt.

RedNFeisty · 09-30-2010, 07:49 AM

Situations of this nature are very tragic, my heart goes out to the family of this young man.

RIP young Sir.

BIG_DADDY · 09-30-2010, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson

American Pie is a movie. I can't believe some people on this board can't grasp that.

If someone filmed me having sex I don't know what I'd do.

Probably suck it up and move on like 99.9% of everyone else out there. What's wrong dude, got a small pee pee?

In all seriousness getting kicked out of college along with the very real prospect of a felony on their record the rest of their life and having to know their cruel actions resulted in this guy taking his life is pretty hard road considering. This guy taking his life out over something where could have easily filed a civil suit and moved on to another college if it bothered him that much is just ridiculous. Dude had some really serious issues going on before this happened. I also agree with Amnorix on the whole age thing playing a part as well.

DJ's left nut · 09-30-2010, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

They will slap him with a felony and offer him county time if he complies. He still ****ed up his whole life on this stupid cruel prank. I rememer when you used to have to kill someone or rob a bank to get those felonies. They hand them out like chiclets now.

You don't believe it was justified here?

Yeah, he ****ed up his whole life, poor him.

The quiet little gay kid he was essentially bullying is dead.

**** that guy, I hope he gets a nightly raping in prison and with any luck, a nice batch of the HIV will knock him off slowly over the next 15 years. But hopefully not until he's forced to give handjobs for meal money after this nonsense makes him unemployable.

What a prick. His roommate was a gay musician - there's a stunner. For him to essentially announce it, record it and broadcast it is not a prank. He was not doing this in fun. He was doing this because he's a jackass that lacks a basic moral compass.

It was cruel to its very core and the little **** deserves anything he gets.

DJ's left nut · 09-30-2010, 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjjayb

Okay, I'll play devil's advocate here. If this situation happened, but his roommate was broadcasting video of him banging an ugly chick, would you all still feel the same way?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Some of you younger people need to help me out.

When I go to youtube or collegehumor or places like that I see tons of videos and pictures of people making out, girls kissing, etc. I kind of assumed that people taping other people at college was kind of, I don't want to say common-place, so lets say not all that unusual.

I agree with whoever posted earlier, that if the kid was having sex with a girl he picked up, would it be a big deal?

You don't see the distinction between having sex with an ugly chick and the social stigma that goes along with being outed?

If someone mailed your mom a postcard of you nailing the cleaning lady, I'm guessing your reaction would be slightly more subdued than if someone mailed her a picture of you nailing a llama. Don't play dumb, you know there's a difference here.

Some folks end up severely phsychologically tortured over their sexuality, this kid appears to be one of those folks.

Otter · 09-30-2010, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

Probably suck it up and move on like 99.9% of everyone else out there. What's wrong dude, got a small pee pee?

In all seriousness getting kicked out of college along with the very real prospect of a felony on their record the rest of their life and having to know their cruel actions resulted in this guy taking his life is pretty hard road considering. This guy taking his life out over something where could have easily filed a civil suit and moved on to another college if it bothered him that much is just ridiculous. Dude had some really serious issues going on before this happened. I also agree with Amnorix on the whole age thing playing a part as well.

Same except ol' Ravi would have came home to find everything he owns in the bathtub with the shower running and me hinting to everyone how when he came home drunk he would beg me for a blow job.

That and the garnishing of his paycheck for the next 20 years seeing how he's a liberal arts major.

09-29-2010, 11:34 PM
jAZ Supporter Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Tucson, AZ Casino cash: $9817493	Rutgers freshman suicide after roommate broadcast gay sexual encounter online? Wow. Prank gone waaay wrong. http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/201...gers_post.html Rutgers freshman is presumed dead in suicide after roommate broadcast gay sexual encounter online Wednesday, September 29, 2010, 5:42 PM Kelly Heyboer/ The Star-Ledger PISCATAWAY — A Rutgers University freshman appears to have killed himself by jumping off the George Washington Bridge after his roommate broadcast live images of the 18-year-old having a sexual encounter with another man on the internet, according to campus and law enforcement sources. Tyler Clementi, 18, of Ridgewood, is presumed dead after his car, cell phone and computer were found near the George Washington Bridge last week, law enforcement sources said. His wallet was found on the walkway adjacent to the New York-bound lanes. In a statement released this afternoon, Clementi’s family confirmed the suicide and said his body has not been found. Dharun Ravi, 18, of Plainsboro, and Molly Wei, 18, of Princeton, were charged with two counts each of invasion of privacy for setting up a camera in a dorm room on Sept. 19 and using it to view and transmit a live sex scene, said Middlesex County Prosecutor Bruce Kaplan. Paul Mainardi of Woodbury, the Clementi family's attorney, said Ravi and Clementi were roommates at Rutgers. Ravi's Twitter feed on that date referred to seeing his roommate have sex with another man in their room on the Piscataway campus, classmates said. "Roommate asked for the room till midnight. I went into molly's room and turned on my webcam. I saw him making out with a dude. Yay," Ravi said on his Twitter page in a Sept. 19 entry posted at 6:17 p.m. Two days later, Ravi posted another entry directing his nearly 150 Twitter followers to iChat, an internet messaging service with a live video feed. "Anyone with iChat, I dare you to video chat me between the hours of 9:30 and 12. Yes it's happening again," Ravi wrote in the Sept. 21 post. Ravi's Twitter feed has since been taken down. But the entries survived in a cached version of the page still available through Google's search engine this afternoon. Prosecutors said Ravi and Wei set up a camera on Sept. 19 and broadcast live images of Clementi having a "sexual encounter." Ravi is also accused of trying unsuccessfully to broadcast a second sex scene Sept. 21. The Clementi family released a statement this afternoon. "Tyler was a fine young man, and a distinguished musician. The family is heartbroken beyond words. They respectfully request that they be given time to grieve their great loss and that their privacy at this painful time be respected by all," it said. "The family and their representatives are cooperating fully with the ongoing criminal investigations of two Rutgers University students," the statement said. Clementi was an accomplished violinist who had received a college scholarship from the Ridgewood Symphony Orchestra for his musicianship and leadership. The violinist left a lasting impression with some in the Bergen County town, said Hiro Kagei, 17, who played in the orchestra with the teenager. A solo Clementi played in a concert last year "blew the audience away," he said. "Now that he’ dead, it’s sad to think we won’t hear something like that anymore," Kagei said. On the Rutgers campus, classmates described Clementi as quiet. At a mandatory dorm meeting called the day he was reported missing, only three students said they had spoken to Clementi since they moved into the dorm last month, according to students who were at the meeting. Ravi and Wei — who were classmates at West Windsor-Plainsboro High School North before enrolling at Rutgers this fall — did not respond to e-mail requests to comment Tuesday. Steve Altman, Ravi’s attorney, also declined to comment. Ravi surrendered to Rutgers police Tuesday and was released on $25,000 bail, the prosecutor’s office said. Wei surrendered to the campus police Monday and was released on her own recognizance. Under New Jersey’s invasion-of-privacy laws, it is a fourth degree crime to collect or view images depicting nudity or sexual contact involving another individual without that person’s consent, the prosecutor said. It is a third degree crime to transmit or distribute the images. If the students are convicted on a third degree offense they could face up to five years in prison each under state law. Conviction on a fourth-degree crime could lead to probation or up to 18 months in prison.
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