Chiefs Late night bullshit: our lines.

Direckshun · 10-28-2010, 01:03 AM

I've been watching game tape tonight of the 49ers game, the Texans game, and the Jags game.

Two comments:

I'm loving our offensive line. Albert, Waters, Wiegmann, and Lilja move in space as if they were linebackers. There's no "I'm a 300 pound gargantuan" to how they run and move. Lilja especially -- what a steal this guy was. He is playing like a Pro Bowler in this offense. Wiegmann has been impressive too, but he's been our best pickup of the entire offseason. He misses absolutely nothing at the LOS in picking up passrushing. We have all the talent we need on the line, but he's the reason we're #1 in sack prevention.

People have asked why we are so good in run defense but so poor in pass defense. The answer is simple: our DL isn't versatile enough just yet. Our DL lineup of Dorsey, Edwards, and Smith, is a lineup of three defensive tackles. That means, on most downs we play, we're featuring three defensive tackles.

That means it's going to be a beast to run against them. That's a lot of beef to move. But their passrushing is going to be lackluster, to say the least. Edwards can get in the backfield once a game pretty reliably, but that's it. Shaun Smith has been a good addition for this team and plays very hard between whistles but his passrushing is pathetic. He's a nose, not an end. Dorsey can get into the backfield, however.

That's why Jackson's development is so important, and why the DE in a 3-4 is so important. You need to be stout enough against the run while also having the quickness and moves to get into the backfield on passing downs. That's why Tyson Jackson desperately needs to develop, or we need to consider other options to lock that down.

Because that is going to get us slaughtered in the playoffs. It is a dead end if our defensive line cannot get in the backfield.

**Bugeater** · 10-28-2010, 01:20 AM

Saccocrap should be along shortly to tell you how much Albert sucks.

Saccopoo · 10-28-2010, 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater

Saccocrap should be along shortly to tell you how much Albert sucks.

I would, but it's a little obvious...

Apparently Direckshun has ingested a shit ton of peyote and I can't be held responsible for the insane shit he spews under it's influence.

Saccopoo · 10-28-2010, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

People have asked why we are so good in run defense but so poor in pass defense. The answer is simple: our DL isn't versatile enough just yet.

Perhaps, when our defensive line is versatile enough, they will be able to step in and pass block for our shit bag tackles.

Until that time, we'll continue to offer up inside routes, speed rushes and stunts in the hope that Matt Cassel feels the pocket better and truly understands the importance of a .73 drop step pass scheme.

Pioli Zombie · 10-28-2010, 04:06 AM

Cassel sucks

Marcellus · 10-28-2010, 06:02 AM

Lilja is washed up and sucks. I read it here.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=224553

and here

http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=224603 This one has some jems.

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

In honor of your repost, I'll repost my response in the other thread:

No.

No.

No.

No.

No.

NO.

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Originally Posted by Delano

Goff ver.2
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Originally Posted by Bill Lundberg

This sums it up pretty well

JoshLooney
cut from the 32nd ranked rush offense. Q1. why? that answer goes a long way @mmalone95: @JoshLooney Ryan Lilja?? Any word?

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

why would anyone want this guy?

He is a terrible run blocker and was made to look like he was a WAY better pass protector because he blocks for Peyton Manning.

I'm sorry, it's true.

and that line continues to be the worst run blocking line in the NFL...which is why Lilja is gone in the first place.

Dude is done.

My fave.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

He wouldn't be a good signing at any price.

Some of you people really need to get a ****ing clue.

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

All I can say is that there are more than a few ****ing reeruned Chiefs fans.

Not naming names.

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Because just like last year, and every year before, there are more than a handful of members that don't perform ANY due diligence.

They see a name they're familiar with and say "Oooooooooh! We need to sign HIM".

They don't know his history, his injuries, his assets, his liabilities or his age.

It's just like ****ing Horseshack: "Oooh, Oooh, OOOH!".

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Originally Posted by T-post Tom

Okay, but I think my previous post with the article on Lilja supports my contention that Lilja would be viable for the Chiefs. That said, maybe Pioli & company have a better plan sans Lilja. What that is, I have no idea. But considering the dearth of talent currently on the line, I think Lilja warrants serious consideration.

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Why?????????????

WHY????????????????????

He's broke. He played right guard for the 32ND RUSHING TEAM.

He blocked for maybe the best passing QB in the past 30 years, with the quickest release of maybe all time.

WHAT in the world makes you think he's a good fit in KC?????????????

WHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?

El Jefe · 10-28-2010, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

Lilja is washed up and sucks. I read it here.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=224553

and here

http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=224603 This one has some jems.

My fave.

I have to admit that's pretty funny stuff right there. I didn't mind the Lilja signing at all, actually I liked it. But I need to give you some rep for digging up some hilarious posts. CP is so two faced lol.

**Dave Lane** · 10-28-2010, 07:42 AM

That shit may leave a mark with at least one poster.

**RealSNR** · 10-28-2010, 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Perhaps, when our defensive line is versatile enough, they will be able to step in and pass block for our shit bag tackles.

Until that time, we'll continue to offer up inside routes, speed rushes and stunts in the hope that Matt Cassel feels the pocket better and truly understands the importance of a .73 drop step pass scheme.

And a rookie OT would be doing better you say?

TheGuardian · 10-28-2010, 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Lilja is washed up and sucks. I read it here.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=224553

and here

http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=224603 This one has some jems.

My fave.

Wow that's some ownage.

Look there are some guys I have learned flat out, whatever they say, expect the complete opposite 90% of the time.

OnTheShitPath58

Mecca

Dane

There are others. But these guys take the proverbial dumbassery clown cake when it comes to their takes on the Chiefs.

El Jefe · 10-28-2010, 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGuardian

Wow that's some ownage.

Look there are some guys I have learned flat out, whatever they say, expect the complete opposite 90% of the time.

OnTheShitPath58

Mecca

Dane

There are others. But these guys take the proverbial dumbassery clown cake when it comes to their takes on the Chiefs.

Things are about to get real

**BigMeatballDave** · 10-28-2010, 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGuardian

Wow that's some ownage.

Look there are some guys I have learned flat out, whatever they say, expect the complete opposite 90% of the time.

OnTheShitPath58

Mecca

Dane

There are others. But these guys take the proverbial dumbassery clown cake when it comes to their takes on the Chiefs.

OTW and Dane will happily eat crow and admit they were wrong. Mecca, will never face the music. Honestly though, who would have thought Lilja was going to pan out like this?

El Jefe · 10-28-2010, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by BCD

OTW and Dane will happily eat crow and admit they were wrong. Mecca, will never face the music. Honestly though, who would have thought Lilja was going to pan out like this?

True on the first part. Secondly I didn't expect them to sign Lilja and expect him to be complete garbage, ask any Colts fans and they will tell you he was still good. I went to the Colts Chiefs game and they honored him during a tv timeout, many Colts fans still wanted him.

Reerun_KC · 10-28-2010, 08:29 AM

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Sofa King · 10-28-2010, 08:33 AM

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Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2033447	Late night bullshit: our lines. I've been watching game tape tonight of the 49ers game, the Texans game, and the Jags game. Two comments: I'm loving our offensive line. Albert, Waters, Wiegmann, and Lilja move in space as if they were linebackers. There's no "I'm a 300 pound gargantuan" to how they run and move. Lilja especially -- what a steal this guy was. He is playing like a Pro Bowler in this offense. Wiegmann has been impressive too, but he's been our best pickup of the entire offseason. He misses absolutely nothing at the LOS in picking up passrushing. We have all the talent we need on the line, but he's the reason we're #1 in sack prevention. People have asked why we are so good in run defense but so poor in pass defense. The answer is simple: our DL isn't versatile enough just yet. Our DL lineup of Dorsey, Edwards, and Smith, is a lineup of three defensive tackles. That means, on most downs we play, we're featuring three defensive tackles. That means it's going to be a beast to run against them. That's a lot of beef to move. But their passrushing is going to be lackluster, to say the least. Edwards can get in the backfield once a game pretty reliably, but that's it. Shaun Smith has been a good addition for this team and plays very hard between whistles but his passrushing is pathetic. He's a nose, not an end. Dorsey can get into the backfield, however. That's why Jackson's development is so important, and why the DE in a 3-4 is so important. You need to be stout enough against the run while also having the quickness and moves to get into the backfield on passing downs. That's why Tyson Jackson desperately needs to develop, or we need to consider other options to lock that down. Because that is going to get us slaughtered in the playoffs. It is a dead end if our defensive line cannot get in the backfield.
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