Chiefs I know everyone on CP hates Cassel..... - Page 10

Three7s · 11-16-2010, 06:02 PM

So, after listening to Petro's weekly PMS rant about people unfairly bashing Cassel, I started wondering. What would it take for people to actually.....LIKE Cassel? I don't know if there's a thread on this or not because I'm way too lazy to go through all of the Cassel bashing threads.

FWIW, I don't think Cassel is all that great either, but he can, at least, complete a pass once in awhile, unlike guys like Campbell.

What I think would sway my feelings toward him is to do what he did against the Broncos, only when it REALLY matters. I know it would go against our offensive philosophy, but teams are stacking the box on us so much that it looks like it has to be done.......so how about you guys?

**The Bad Guy** · 11-17-2010, 08:19 AM

I'm not a Cassel fan at all, I think he's horrible, but what Brock says is right.

patteeu · 11-17-2010, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

why would anyone like a $63 million dollar game manager being passed off as a Franchise QB to a fanbase that hasn't sniffed a superbowl in decades?

what kind of self-hating idiot would continue in the belief that we don't deserve a real god damn QB for once in our sorry ****ing lives?

I mean really, after sticking your fingers up your butts and pretending that QB isn't the #1 reason we've blown ass for decades, after almost 27 years since we botched the draft and took Blackledge, we haven't made a single serious attempt to acquire and develop a QB instead preferring every used car demo program model piece of warmed over low risk low reward shit...to the never ending cheers of the Fanbase as it is represented by the stevierays and dented-skull types like patteau

the question is why would anyone 'like' a QB that everyone knows isn't good enough?

you don't watch the good QBs in the league and say to yourself, "why aren't we drafting a QB every single ****ing year until we get one of those?!?"

why isn't the only god damn objective of this team since FOREVER to do anything to acquire THAT QB, no matter how many failures it takes?

This franchise isn't doing jack shit until it gets the QB position figured out. You can draft midget scat backs and punt returners from now until the next Elvis Bono comes...

I'm all for drafting a QB every year until you hit on something. I wouldn't use the 1st round pick on a QB every year though because that's stupid. I don't want a franchise that spends decades in last place waiting for their savior QB. If you do, maybe you'd be happier as a fan of the Detroit Lions. They aren't quite that stupid, but they're as close as you can find at the moment.

**BigMeatballDave** · 11-17-2010, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

I'm all for drafting a QB every year until you hit on something. I wouldn't use the 1st round pick on a QB every year though because that's stupid. I don't want a franchise that spends decades in last place waiting for their savior QB. If you do, maybe you'd be happier as a fan of the Detroit Lions. They aren't quite that stupid, but they're as close as you can find at the moment.

Can we use ONE 1st round pick? We havent done that since Blackledge.

**BigMeatballDave** · 11-17-2010, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

So has Matt Cassel.

No. He has not. The games we won were in spite of him. We would have the exact same record if Croyle was QB. Possibly better.

**The Bad Guy** · 11-17-2010, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by BCD

No. He has not. The games we won were in spite of him. We would have the exact same record if Croyle was QB. Possibly better.

Probably a stretch when Croyle has never won a game in his NFL career as a starter.

Reerun_KC · 11-17-2010, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

Matt Cassel can get on a flaming aids Segway and ride off a cliff.

And so can all of his fans.

Well we will miss you...

**dirk digler** · 11-17-2010, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by stevieray

Grbac eventualy spiraled out of control and became a complete wuss. It wasn't hard to abandon that ship.

I stood behind Green too...you remember the trint year.

Cassel isn't going anywhere. they are in year two, and as been shown the defense and running game aren't where they need to be. the quick start has deluded the status of this team..still has lots of work to be done, including QB play.

Stevie what have you seen of Cassel that thinks he is able to lead this team to a championship?

Reerun_KC · 11-17-2010, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

Stevie what have you seen of Cassel that thinks he is able to lead this team to a championship?

Nothing... but none of us on this board have control over it... So all we get to do is

and bitch like menstrating women...

I am done with Cassel... he can go... ON top of that, I never want to see Broke Dick take another snap here was well...

Time to clean house at the QB position...

Chiefnj2 · 11-17-2010, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

The Colts loss though, was squarely on him.

Bowe's dropped TD pass didn't outweigh Cassel's shortcomings?

CrazyHorse · 11-17-2010, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

why would anyone like a $63 million dollar game manager being passed off as a Franchise QB to a fanbase that hasn't sniffed a superbowl in decades?

what kind of self-hating idiot would continue in the belief that we don't deserve a real god damn QB for once in our sorry ****ing lives?

I mean really, after sticking your fingers up your butts and pretending that QB isn't the #1 reason we've blown ass for decades, after almost 27 years since we botched the draft and took Blackledge, we haven't made a single serious attempt to acquire and develop a QB instead preferring every used car demo program model piece of warmed over low risk low reward shit...to the never ending cheers of the Fanbase as it is represented by the stevierays and dented-skull types like patteau

the question is why would anyone 'like' a QB that everyone knows isn't good enough?

you don't watch the good QBs in the league and say to yourself, "why aren't we drafting a QB every single ****ing year until we get one of those?!?"

why isn't the only god damn objective of this team since FOREVER to do anything to acquire THAT QB, no matter how many failures it takes?

This franchise isn't doing jack shit until it gets the QB position figured out. You can draft midget scat backs and punt returners from now until the next Elvis Bono comes...

Thats sound brilliant and all. But pretty stupid when you actually think about what you're saying.

Here is what we would have if we just followed your formula for the last 2 seasons. Since Cassel was brought in.

We would have about 150 million in salary tied up, Sanchez and Claussen. Niether of these guys looks to be what you are describing as a franchise guy. Sanchez threw 20 picks for 12 TDs and Clausen looks like a bust and not worthy of the #5 pick.

Unless you get Payton Manning QBs dont win games by themselves.

The assholes that say they can wait to develop a QB are the same assholes that are complaining while we try to develop one. Im not a big Cassel fan. But I also dont talk out of both sides of my face. I said I would give the guy a chance and thats what I will do.

Besides, when you start wishing harm on someone who is doing his job the best he can, its time to start watching golf. I get aggrivated, but damn....gain some perspective will ya?

Samson · 11-17-2010, 08:48 AM

What would it take?

Cassel threw what should have been the game-winning touchdown to Bowe against the Raiders...down on the road, in the 4th quarter, division rival.

IF our defense holds Oakland after that score and we win...there would be less Cassel-bashing.

It's all predicated on winning and losing. People made their minds up last year about him when we were losing, and they ain't gonna change it now. It was a lot more quiet when we were winning this year, but after dropping the games we have...everything, EVERYTHING he does incorrectly (bad pass, not throwing the ball away) is magnified to an absurd level.

People will not change their minds...but they'll be more quiet if we win.

**The Bad Guy** · 11-17-2010, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Bowe's dropped TD pass didn't outweigh Cassel's shortcomings?

It was a huge play no doubt. But the defense kept giving him opportunity after opportunity and he failed with it.

On the first drive of the game, he locked on Bowe when Castille and Moeaki were coming open.

patteeu · 11-17-2010, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BCD

Can we use ONE 1st round pick? We havent done that since Blackledge.

Absolutely. Over the years, I'd draft some guys early and some guys late. I'd also allow for the possibility of acquiring guys through trade or free agency. My philosophy would be to always be churning through QBs from all sources until I hit a home run on one of them.

Reerun_KC · 11-17-2010, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Bowe's dropped TD pass didn't outweigh Cassel's shortcomings?

No not really...

I was at the game and it was obvious that Cassel didnt elevate his game or anyones around him.

It was night and day looking live at Indy passing game vs Chiefs passing game..

patteeu · 11-17-2010, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BCD

No. He has not. The games we won were in spite of him. We would have the exact same record if Croyle was QB. Possibly better.

You can't say he didn't play well enough to win a game if we actually won it. Don't be ridiculous.

11-16-2010, 06:02 PM
Three7s MVP Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $10084719	I know everyone on CP hates Cassel..... So, after listening to Petro's weekly PMS rant about people unfairly bashing Cassel, I started wondering. What would it take for people to actually.....LIKE Cassel? I don't know if there's a thread on this or not because I'm way too lazy to go through all of the Cassel bashing threads. FWIW, I don't think Cassel is all that great either, but he can, at least, complete a pass once in awhile, unlike guys like Campbell. What I think would sway my feelings toward him is to do what he did against the Broncos, only when it REALLY matters. I know it would go against our offensive philosophy, but teams are stacking the box on us so much that it looks like it has to be done.......so how about you guys?
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Samson Starter Join Date: Nov 2007 Casino cash: $10004900	What would it take? Cassel threw what should have been the game-winning touchdown to Bowe against the Raiders...down on the road, in the 4th quarter, division rival. IF our defense holds Oakland after that score and we win...there would be less Cassel-bashing. It's all predicated on winning and losing. People made their minds up last year about him when we were losing, and they ain't gonna change it now. It was a lot more quiet when we were winning this year, but after dropping the games we have...everything, EVERYTHING he does incorrectly (bad pass, not throwing the ball away) is magnified to an absurd level. People will not change their minds...but they'll be more quiet if we win.
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