What if Charles really did get more carries? Wicket stat.

[Hammock Parties]

He could break off 2K in our system, that's what.

• Jamaal Charles(notes)

The Kansas City Chiefs running back had 14 touches for 153 total yards and a touchdown, and helped ease the load for the returning Matt Cassel(notes). His 80-yard run late in the fourth quarter – on the Chiefs’ first snap after the Rams pulled within 20-13 – locked the game up. Here’s a wicked stat: Charles has 1,961 rushing yards in his last 17 games. And he did that on only 297 carries. That’s a staggering average of 6.6 yards per carry.

[Hootie]

McFadden is a beast, too...

Guys like CJ, Jamaal and McFadden...those are the new breed of factor backs that every NFL team envies.

But right now...at this point...I don't think anyone is taking anyone over Jamaal Charles...dude is a beast...good hands...can run for power...and he's as elusive as they come...

he can make something out of nothing and he almost NEVER has negative carries...

Shit...when he goes for only 3 everyone is like "wtf?!"

Thomas Jones keeps him fresh...but that's the NFL these days...Charles could win the rushing title splitting carries and having 50+ less carries (and even more in most cases) than all of the other backs fighting for the crown...

that's absolutely unheard of

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

real concrete stuff you got there

stats can be misleading...

but how can a YPC stat for a RB that has that many carries be misleading?

This isn't a small sample size...

this is 250+ carries

and he averaged 6.63 YPC

time to take your head out of your ass

And How many broken tackles??

[JTagg7754]

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

well he is better than CJ this season...

and Foster has been great, no doubt...but is his team winning games?

They went from a pass heavy, elite offense that could score at will to a run first team that struggles to score points.

He is better than CJ a lot are. To say he's better than him last year is just dumb though. Real dumb. CJ had one of the best seasons ever for a RB last season.

OMG (and I hate acronyms) at your second statement. I thought first it was the QB you blame for losses but now it's the RB? Give me a ****ing break dude. Shaub is top 5 in pass attempts b/c their defense ****ing sucks and takes them out of games so he needs to chuck it all around. Foster is STILL putting up those numbers in a passing offense b/c the defense is terrible.

The two schedules from the Texans and Chiefs aren't comparable either.

[JTagg7754]

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

real concrete stuff you got there

stats can be misleading...

but how can a YPC stat for a RB that has that many carries be misleading?

This isn't a small sample size...

this is 250+ carries

and he averaged 6.63 YPC

time to take your head out of your ass

It is concrete. i don't expect you or any other member of a Chiefs board to understand.

[JTagg7754]

Originally Posted by ChiefsFan5840

McFadden is much better, right?

You are ****ing reeruned. Go get eaten by a bear. This conversation isn't for you, kid.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by JTagg7754

It is concrete. i don't expect you or any other member of a Chiefs board to understand.

what are we supposed to understand?

in Charles' last 251 carries...he's averaging 6.63 YPC

are you saying he busted a 400 yard run that skews the average?

[JTagg7754]

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

McFadden is a beast, too...Guys like CJ, Jamaal and McFadden...those are the new breed of factor backs that every NFL team envies.

But right now...at this point...I don't think anyone is taking anyone over Jamaal Charles...dude is a beast...good hands...can run for power...and he's as elusive as they come.. he can make something out of nothing and he almost NEVER has negative carries...Shit...when he goes for only 3 everyone is like "wtf?!"

Thomas Jones keeps him fresh...but that's the NFL these days...Charles could win the rushing title splitting carries and having 50+ less carries (and even more in most cases) than all of the other backs fighting for the crown...

that's absolutely unheard of

I'm not taking anything away from Charles. he's an exciting runner to watch. For what you guys have had to go through lately also, it's refreshing to see. It's just being taken slightly too far.

I think the three of those guys as well as others will be forces to watch for many years. I'm not completely sold on McFadden as of now though. He needs to play more to make me a believer. One good season doesn't make you amazing (something this board needs to learn).

[Hootie]

it does if you're a RB...there is no such thing as a fluke season for a RB...you either have it, or you don't...pretty simple

and out of all of the things we've had to suffer through...good RB play isn't one of them

we've went from Priest, to Larry, to Charles...

I think we're doing just fine...

but it is nice to see Oakland finally have a good back...first good one since Charlie Garner?

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You wanna know why Charles > Foster?

1. Speed. Foster doesn't have the breakaway speed Charles does.

2. Supporting cast. If Charles had a QB like Schaub and a WR like Johnson making safeties back off, he would be a nightmare. Cassel and Bowe are good but not in that league yet. No one is playing eight in the box consistently against the Texans...against the Chiefs, it's standard operating procedure.

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Originally Posted by JTagg7754

You are ****ing reeruned. Go get eaten by a bear. This conversation isn't for you, kid.

Haha, sorry that you're trying to act like Mr Know it all and getting owned. It's not my fault, it really isn't.

Oh and lol @ calling me kid. I'm willing to bet I knew more than you know about football right now, before you were born. ****ing idiot.

[JTagg7754]

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

what are we supposed to understand?

in Charles' last 251 carries...he's averaging 6.63 YPC

are you saying he busted a 400 yard run that skews the average?

No I'm saying his competition hasn't been the best. I'm saying he's not as good as you all are making him out to be. hell, we may as well be talking about Barry Sanders the way he's perceived around here. Charles is good, no doubt, but if the only thing you have to show of this is numbers, then I can't agree. Especially when he's putting up a good chunk of those against terrible run D's (ie Buffalo) but then can't even muster out more than 66 against an overrated run D in SD.

Good backs do it consistently and against everyone. Charles is good but he's not as consistent as he could be YET and he gets a lot of yards against dogshit defenses.

THAT is how they're skewed.

[Hootie]

Charles has had 1 unproductive game all year when we lost 31-0 with Brokie Suckass at QB...

but hey...

anything you can do to make yourself feel better knowing the Chiefs are going to own the West for the next 5 years (minimum)...

I don't blame you...you guys had to suffer through taking Russell #1 overall...I truly feel bad for Raiders fans No one deserves that...or Al.

[JTagg7754]

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

it does if you're a RB...there is no such thing as a fluke season for a RB...you either have it, or you don't...pretty simple

and out of all of the things we've had to suffer through...good RB play isn't one of them

we've went from Priest, to Larry, to Charles...

I think we're doing just fine...

but it is nice to see Oakland finally have a good back...first good one since Charlie Garner?

I'm just talking about losing ways. I mean you did bring up if Houston was winning and Foster being the reason (at least implying). So the Chiefs had those guys but weren't winning.

McFadden is a one hit wonder so far w/ me. Can he stay healthy? That's a huge issue w/ me. I never liked the pick coming out of college but he's changed his running style this season and it's shown. If you watch him in college and before, he never used his blocks, his vision was of that of Helen Keller's, he had no patience, he got ahead of himself among other things. he doesn't seem to have any of those problems this year and it's showing. He's having a great year, but I need more to say he's a great back. I'm not a guy you're gonna find who says Terrell Davis was a good back, he was a flash in the pan, that's not a good back.

Let's not get me excited talking about Charlie Garner haha. I loved that dude.

[Hootie]

Garner was a fantasy stud for me...on the 49ers and the Raiders...I'm a Garner fan.

[JTagg7754]

Originally Posted by ChiefsFan5840

Haha, sorry that you're trying to act like Mr Know it all and getting owned. It's not my fault, it really isn't.

Oh and lol @ calling me kid. I'm willing to bet I knew more than you know about football right now, before you were born. ****ing idiot.

No, you don't. how do I know this? B/c you're being a jackass and arguing about something that isn't even being discussed in order to bait me into a homer debate like you obviously are looking for.

Shut up, sit in the peanut gallery, and leave the discussion to the people who possess an IQ higher than the largest denomination of change that's in their pockets.

Thanks.