Chiefs trade scenario? - Page 2

kcbubb · 04-19-2011, 08:38 AM

Every year players fall in the draft that we don't anticipate. I remember when many on this board were enamored with Everette Brown and Clausen and both fell to the 2nd round and several endorsed taking those players early.

I have also talked about trading down in previous years, but I feel that trading up may be a better option this year if the following scenario plays out.

If Julio Jones falls to the 12th pick in the draft where the Minnesota Vikings pick, the Chiefs should trade up to get him.

For starters I believe that Todd Hailey is one of the best WR and TE coaches in the game. If my memory serves me well, everywhere he goes, pro bowl WRs follow. I don't think the improved play of Dwayne Bowe is by chance.

Secondly, Julio Jones fits our system very well. We make running the ball a priority and he is the best run blockers in this draft that I am aware of. Also, he provides a deep threat. He needs polishing, but I believe that he would be pro bowler for the Chiefs with Haley's coaching. This situation appears to be one with a high floor and very high ceiling.

Third. The Vikings are in desperate need of a DT and we should be able to trade Glenn Dorsey to the Vikings for partial compensation in the trade. Dorsey is a better fit in there 4-3 system and provides immediate security for their problems with the old Williams wall, where one of the Williams maybe suspended. Dorsey has shown enough to provide considerable value to the Vikings in the 4-3, where he is a better fit.

I haven't looked at the trade chart, but I am guessing that the Vikings could get Dorsey, and maybe our 3rd and 5th and a pick next year depending on the play of Dorsey. Maybe this is too much or not quite enough, but I am guessing that it is in the ball park for a nine position move up depending on how you value Dorsey.

Go get one the best athletes in this draft!

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2011/profil...nes?id=2495454

Chiefnj2 · 04-19-2011, 11:03 AM

Trade the only DL worth a damn (assuming it was even allowed). I don't usually give neg rep on draft discussions, but this comes close.

DMAC · 04-19-2011, 11:09 AM

**RealSNR** · 04-19-2011, 11:12 AM

Todd Haley better go tell Todd Hailey that this is one hell of a reeruned idea

kcbubb · 04-19-2011, 11:28 AM

Obviously I forgot about trading players with the CBA. So, this part wouldn't work. But Julio Jones is a great player that would fit well with the Chiefs. Moving up to 12 or 13 to get Jones is a great move for this team if the price is not too high.

milkman · 04-19-2011, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb

Obviously I forgot about trading players with the CBA. So, this part wouldn't work. But Julio Jones is a great player that would fit well with the Chiefs. Moving up to 12 or 13 to get Jones is a great move for this team if the price is not too high.

No shit.

Bewbies · 04-19-2011, 11:36 AM

Frankie · 04-19-2011, 11:44 AM

This thread makes no sense. WE ARE NOT IN ANY POSITION TO TRADE UP! At least not that drastic a trade up. If we were one stud WR away from the Super Bowl, yes I'd support it. But as things are we have many holes to plug and many positions we need to improve on. We need a bunch of solid football players, not a star in one position while sacrificing the rest.

If anything, we should trade down. (See http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=243887)

BigCatDaddy · 04-19-2011, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Frankie

This thread makes no sense. WE ARE NOT IN ANY POSITION TO TRADE UP! At least not that drastic a trade up. If we were one stud WR away from the Super Bowl, yes I'd support it. But as things are we have many holes to plug and many positions we need to improve on. We need a bunch of solid football players, not a star in one position while sacrificing the rest.

If anything, we should trade down. (See http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=243887)

You wouldn't move up to get him for a 1 and a 3 this year?

milkman · 04-19-2011, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

You wouldn't move up to get him for a 1 and a 3 this year?

I tend to agree with Frankie (mark this day on your calendar).

A trade down would be more desirable, but at the same time, a 1st and a 3rd to trade up 9 spots isn't all that drastic.

kcbubb · 04-19-2011, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

No shit.

what would you give up to trade up 9 spots?

milkman · 04-19-2011, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb

what would you give up to trade up 9 spots?

I should have bolded the part that I was respnding to, so I won't give you shit for not understanding.

That's my fault.

Julio Jones would be a great fit for the Chiefs.

Well, no shit.

See my previous post for the answer to your question here.

BigCatDaddy · 04-19-2011, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

I tend to agree with Frankie (mark this day on your calendar).

A trade down would be more desirable, but at the same time, a 1st and a 3rd to trade up 9 spots isn't all that drastic.

I would much rather trade our 1st and 3rd for Jones(If possible) then trade back and pick up another 3rd or whatever.

Frankie · 04-19-2011, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

You wouldn't move up to get him for a 1 and a 3 this year?

I WOULD consider it but he is proposing giving up our 3rd+5th+Dorsey+a pick next year.

BigCatDaddy · 04-19-2011, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie

I WOULD consider it but he is proposing giving up our 3rd+5th+Dorsey+a pick next year.

Yeah, I kind of ignored all that jazz since it's not possible.

kcbubb · 04-19-2011, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman

I should have bolded the part that I was respnding to, so I won't give you shit for not understanding.

That's my fault.

Julio Jones would be a great fit for the Chiefs.

Well, no shit.

See my previous post for the answer to your question here.

That's not near enough. A third rounder??? Julio Jones is a once in a decade type of athlete. He is a perfect fit for the chiefs and would be coached by a head coach who makes WRs into pro bowlers. He also blocks and does not appear to be a pre maddonna.

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kcbubb Veteran Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $5116719	Chiefs trade scenario? Every year players fall in the draft that we don't anticipate. I remember when many on this board were enamored with Everette Brown and Clausen and both fell to the 2nd round and several endorsed taking those players early. I have also talked about trading down in previous years, but I feel that trading up may be a better option this year if the following scenario plays out. If Julio Jones falls to the 12th pick in the draft where the Minnesota Vikings pick, the Chiefs should trade up to get him. For starters I believe that Todd Hailey is one of the best WR and TE coaches in the game. If my memory serves me well, everywhere he goes, pro bowl WRs follow. I don't think the improved play of Dwayne Bowe is by chance. Secondly, Julio Jones fits our system very well. We make running the ball a priority and he is the best run blockers in this draft that I am aware of. Also, he provides a deep threat. He needs polishing, but I believe that he would be pro bowler for the Chiefs with Haley's coaching. This situation appears to be one with a high floor and very high ceiling. Third. The Vikings are in desperate need of a DT and we should be able to trade Glenn Dorsey to the Vikings for partial compensation in the trade. Dorsey is a better fit in there 4-3 system and provides immediate security for their problems with the old Williams wall, where one of the Williams maybe suspended. Dorsey has shown enough to provide considerable value to the Vikings in the 4-3, where he is a better fit. I haven't looked at the trade chart, but I am guessing that the Vikings could get Dorsey, and maybe our 3rd and 5th and a pick next year depending on the play of Dorsey. Maybe this is too much or not quite enough, but I am guessing that it is in the ball park for a nine position move up depending on how you value Dorsey. Go get one the best athletes in this draft! http://www.nfl.com/draft/2011/profil...nes?id=2495454
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Frankie Banned Join Date: Jul 2001 Casino cash: $10004900	This thread makes no sense. WE ARE NOT IN ANY POSITION TO TRADE UP! At least not that drastic a trade up. If we were one stud WR away from the Super Bowl, yes I'd support it. But as things are we have many holes to plug and many positions we need to improve on. We need a bunch of solid football players, not a star in one position while sacrificing the rest. If anything, we should trade down. (See http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=243887)
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