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Old 04-27-2011, 09:41 AM  
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Beat writer Bob Gretz suggests the Chiefs will, in fact, move Dexter McCluster to running back full time.

Coach Todd Haley hinted in February that McCluster would be more of a third-down back than slot receiver. Gretz suggests McCluster could also be used in a "flash-dash duo" with Jamaal Charles. We still have a hard time envisioning enough weekly touches for McCluster to
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Old 04-27-2011, 10:33 AM   #106
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the knee jerk reaction is priceless....
Explain how this is a knee jerk reaction?

When the pick was made, it was panned by many as a stupid luxury pick for a team that had pressing issues at NT, LB, QB and yes, WR. Instead we took a gimmicky scat-back that likely couldn't stay healthy who would struggle to find a regular role in the offense. We were informed that he was clearly going to be the #3 WR the team desperately needed (and that someone like Benn or Williams would be nowhere near as good as the elusive midget).

16 NFL regular season games and 1 post-season game later he has shown to be a guy that couldn't stay healthy and who we couldn't find a regular role in the offense. It also appears increasingly likely that he isn't going to be the #3 WR and most assuredly won't be better than most of the WRs taken after him.

It's not a knee-jerk reaction, it's a vindication. Those of us that hated this pick from the moment it was made have been right across the board. If you need to call it a knee-jerk reaction in order to make yourself feel better, so be it. But there's nothing knee-jerk about this; the angst over this pick has been a long time coming.
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Old 04-27-2011, 10:35 AM   #107
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4th and 6 inches called, and wants its toss-sweep back.

Listen, I'm not saying we HAVE to have a power back.

But if you watched this team AT ALL last year, you know that short yardage was a huge issue - and that's WITH Jones on the roster.
Has more to do with the middle of the line being weak, imo.
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Old 04-27-2011, 10:35 AM   #108
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read the post...Haley described him as a 3rd down back


he's a postionless player....a gadget...the 36th pick in the draft
"Slash & Dash Duo"

Meaning he will be getting plenty of carries. And just because a guy is labeled 3rd down back doesn't mean he actually comes in on 3rd down.

3rd down back is such a mislabled term.

Look, If he fails, fine. I'll eat crow. But i'm not going to sit here and write the kid off before he even gets a chance like some of you want too. That's irrational.

He showed flashes last season that he can be explosive. Lets see what he can do before we start bitching about him.
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Old 04-27-2011, 10:36 AM   #109
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Explain how this is a knee jerk reaction?
Because none of us know exactly how he is going to be used.
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Old 04-27-2011, 10:37 AM   #110
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4th and 6 inches called, and wants its toss-sweep back.

Listen, I'm not saying we HAVE to have a power back.

But if you watched this team AT ALL last year, you know that short yardage was a huge issue - and that's WITH Jones on the roster.
Yeah, it's called an O-line that got it's shit pushed in. A back that averages 6.4 YPC can't get 1 yard?

Sounds like an O-line that failed when we needed it.
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Old 04-27-2011, 10:37 AM   #111
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4th and 6 inches called, and wants its toss-sweep back.

Listen, I'm not saying we HAVE to have a power back.

But if you watched this team AT ALL last year, you know that short yardage was a huge issue - and that's WITH Jones on the roster.

That 4th and inches was a John Cooper move. I think their short yardage issues start upfront continue at the RB position and end with the coaching staff.
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Old 04-27-2011, 10:37 AM   #112
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And just because a guy is labeled 3rd down back doesn't mean he actually comes in on 3rd down.

3rd down back is such a mislabled term.
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Old 04-27-2011, 10:39 AM   #113
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Old 04-27-2011, 10:40 AM   #114
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Disaster? Really? A tad overstated, IMO.
The man we should've taken forced the fumble that ended the season for us last season when he pursued the RB from behind and stripped the ball.

We're still looking at getting a LBer with our 1st rounder who's not likely to be better than Washington out of TCU who was another guy we should've considered. Oh yeah, and that doesn't even get into the myriad of WRs that would've been great pickups for us last season at that spot that we passed on.

Yeah, I'd say that's a disaster. When you look at not only what he's been and where we took him, but also what the opportunity cost was in a very very deep draft, that pick has been a complete mess.
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Everyone started rationalizing the pick once they SAW what he could do on the field. Something that you and GC want to ignore.

The kid is a playmaker anyway you slice it. If you watched any Cheifs games, it was clear to see. He has home run potential and Haley will use him. That's all that matters.
I'd like to see a list of all these plays that he supposedly made.

He made a 240 pound FB miss on a wet field, took advantage of piss-poor ST coverage and returned a punt for a TD.

He scored against SF after a LB took a shitty angle and whiffed. No one else was even in the area for the next 25 yards.

Those are the two biggest "plays" he made all year.
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I'd like to see EXACTLY how DMc is used this year before I vag out over all of this.
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Meaning he will be getting plenty of carries.


I love this crap...first it was Hootie saying it...now it's you....

McCluster might be able to take 5 or 6 carries a game without getting his ass destroyed and fumbling all over the place. That's less than 100 carries a year, and that's if he stays healthy for ALL 16 games.

The Chiefs ran the ball 556 times last year. Who is going to carry the ball the other 456 times? Not Charles. Let's say he gets 300 of those carries.

So you're left with another 156 carries. Those go to your #2 running back. And if your #2 running back is, you know, actually a good player, why would you want to take carries away from him and give them to a guy who can't even run between the tackles without getting destroyed?

McCluster is going to catch 30 passes for 300 yards out of the backfield next year and look exciting as **** doing it...
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Unrealistic expectations are fueling all this talk of bust. As long as the guy ends up being a solid contributor for a number of years, he'll be a successful pick. Sure you can get pro-bowlers at the top of the second round, but the vast majority of those selected in that part of the draft don't go on to become pro-bowlers. Whether he's ever a starter or not (and I doubt he will be whether he plays running back or slot receiver), as long as he's a solid contributor, I'll be satisfied with him.
OK, "vast" majority might have been a bit of an overstatement on my part, but it's a clear majority. I spot checked 5 years worth of draft (from 1996 to 2000) to see how the 36th overall pick +/- 2 picks (picks 34, 35, 36, 37, and 38) fared and found that 28% eventually made the pro bowl during their career. So, IMO, a solid contributor is what you should expect from that pick and if you end up with a pro-bowl quality player, you've exceeded expectations.
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I'd like to see EXACTLY how DMc is used this year before I vag out over all of this.
Exactly.

Smells like draft season.....
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