McCluster definitely moving to RB full-time

[The Franchise]

www.rotoworld.com

Beat writer Bob Gretz suggests the Chiefs will, in fact, move Dexter McCluster to running back full time.

Coach Todd Haley hinted in February that McCluster would be more of a third-down back than slot receiver. Gretz suggests McCluster could also be used in a "flash-dash duo" with Jamaal Charles. We still have a hard time envisioning enough weekly touches for McCluster to

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

He does have a point about being in love with the idea rather than the player.

You're completely overselling his NFL ability to justify the 36th pick in a ridiculously deep draft.

You don't take this kind of a player with that valuable of a pick.

He's not what you all claimed he was. He's not Wes Welker. He's not DeSean Jackson. He's not Percy Harvin. He's not Devin Hester.

He's a guy that you can get in the later rounds of almost every draft.

He's an even smaller, slower version of Jacoby Ford who was taken in the 4th.

Just one example off the top of my head.

I haven't made a single argument for or against WHERE he was drafted. My argument is over his ability to be a play making contributer. He's shown the ability to do that.

And we can't sit here and use this "But blah blah blah was taken in X round" argument. If people knew what Ford would've been, he would've been taken higher. Hence the "draft is a crap shoot" blah blah blah.

I hate that argument actually.

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

How would you know? You've pretty much had your fingers in your ears whistling the whole time anyway.

[HemiEd]

Great thread.

For me, the two second round picks kind of took some of the shine off of the first pick. They were WTF!? moments, when there were so many players on the board that would fill some needs very well. In fact, one of those players, hurt JC in the playoff game once he pancaked him. (Cody)

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Chris Johnson is no scat back and was no scat-back. He's a speed rusher that, IIRC, broke the 40 time record at the combine. He also showed a solid power game as a full-time rusher at UCF. If you honestly want to compare Johnson and McCluster, do so at your own peril. As far as I'm concerned, it only serves to undermine your credibility.

Charles is also not a scat-back. Even when he was taken people marveled at his balance and the fact that he was actually pretty sturdy off-tackle (by all means, review the thread). The concern with Charles was his experience and the fact that he ran tall. No, he was not seen as a scat-back. Even still, he was taken a hell of a lot later than 36 overall because, again, you don't take guys you don't think can shoulder a legitimate NFL workload at 36 overall.

I'm not comparing Johnson to McCluster. Not sure where you got that from. We're talking about "Scat Backs".

Johnson identifies as a scat back much more then he identifies as any other type of back. And Charles was considered a scat back. He came in with the same kind of concerns as McCluster.

[keg in kc]

If McCluster had gone to a Big XII school instead of an SEC school, we wouldn't even be having this thread. Everybody would love him.













I don't actually believe that, I'm just tossing a grenade into the room as I leave for work.... [/evil laugh]

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

I haven't made a single argument for or against WHERE he was drafted. My argument is over his ability to be a play making contributer. He's shown the ability to do that.

And we can't sit here and use this "But blah blah blah was taken in X round" argument. If people knew what Ford would've been, he would've been taken higher. Hence the "draft is a crap shoot" blah blah blah.

I hate that argument actually.

Sorry, didn't mean to imply you specifically, Clay's post said "some of you" and I thought I typed the same thing. I've edited to clarify.

[Hammock Parties]

Plenty of Chiefs fans are madly in love with McCluster. He's little and cute and exciting.

Just check out his facebook page.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

I haven't made a single argument for or against WHERE he was drafted. My argument is over his ability to be a play making contributer. He's shown the ability to do that.

And we can't sit here and use this "But blah blah blah was taken in X round" argument. If people knew what Ford would've been, he would've been taken higher. Hence the "draft is a crap shoot" blah blah blah.

I hate that argument actually.

But here's the problem:

If McCluster is taken in the 6th round, EVERYONE likes this pick, yes even Clay. He can say he wouldn't, but that's not true.

The angst over McCluster, from everyone that's ever knocked him, is where he was drafted. So when this thread gets rolling and people like BCD come in trying to call out the wolves, they're tacitly defending the where of the pick because said wolves were only ever angry about where he was drafted.

You can't try to get a group of people riled up about something, mis-characterize their position then deflect when they make the same point they've made from the very start.

[Hammock Parties]

I would love McCluster if he was taken in the 6th.

He's little and cute and exciting.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

But here's the problem:

If McCluster is taken in the 6th round, EVERYONE likes this pick, yes even Clay. He can say he wouldn't, but that's not true.

The angst over McCluster, from everyone that's ever knocked him, is where he was drafted. So when this thread gets rolling and people like BCD come in trying to call out the wolves, they're tacitly defending the where of the pick because said wolves were only ever angry about where he was drafted.

You can't try to get a group of people riled up about something, mis-characterize their position then deflect when they make the same point they've made from the very start.

Bingo.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by Red 5

Plenty of Chiefs fans are madly in love with McCluster. He's little and cute and exciting.

Just check out his facebook page.

How many of those people post on this site, much less this thread?

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

How many of those people post on this site, much less this thread?

Typical GC post when he has nothing left to say.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

How many of those people post on this site, much less this thread?

I am sure there is crossover.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Red 5

I am sure there is crossover.

Y'know what, I don't really care.

Get the boobs thread updated with real pictures of your avatars cans already. Those alone are all the proof I need that God hates men. Or maybe he really loves us. Hell I dunno, just show us yer tits...

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Red 5

I would love McCluster if he was taken in the 6th.

He's little and cute and exciting.

I would have been content with him in the 3rd. Not thrilled, but content.

Then again, I'm not one of the mouthbreathers that actually thinks Philly was going to take him, when everyone on the ****ing planet knew they wanted a safety.

That argument is just more rationalization.

ChiefNJ2 nailed it during draft weekend last year:

2. McCluster. I remember watching a few Ole Miss games this year and saying wow that guy is pretty good. Then when the combine rolled around and he was only 175lbs and didn't run that fast, I thought he'd slide a bit. IMO, and I know a lot of people will disagree, Oakland (I think) got better value taking Jacoby Ford in the 4th round. KC could have taken their undersized speedster/wildcat/returner in round 4, and used the 2a pick to address a bigger need.