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Old 07-22-2011, 09:50 AM  
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How would you like Pat Williams at NT?
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2) While driving to the hospital I was listening to an interview with Pat Williams on Sirius NFL Radio. Pat Williams is part of the Williams wall for the Vikings defensive line. His contract is up in Minnesota and they were asking him if he plans on retiring. He said that he thinks he has 1 or 2 more years left in him, but that he wants to play for a winner. He mentioned that he doesn't want to stay in Minnesota if they are going to go with a rookie QB this season. Pat Williams plays most of his snaps as a zero technique in Minnesota (Nose Tackle).

When asked directly where he might like to go if he parts with Minnesota he mentioned 3 teams; but the FIRST team he mentioned was Kansas City. He said KC needed a run stuffer in the middle and he could fill that role.
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Old 07-22-2011, 04:02 PM   #61
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there are some that would ask you the same thing
Who's washed up?
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Old 07-22-2011, 04:08 PM   #62
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Who's washed up?
well there have been a TON of people tell you that franklin isnt worth signing. and he's done when he gets paid.


he was absolutely DOMINATED by weigman( a washed up guy in your opinion) in that game.
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Old 07-22-2011, 04:11 PM   #63
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well there have been a TON of people tell you that franklin isnt worth signing. and he's done when he gets paid.


he was absolutely DOMINATED by weigman( a washed up guy in your opinion) in that game.
1 game doesn't define a players season and as BossChief pointed if theres anyone who can motivate Franklin it would be Romeo. I'll defer to Pioli and Romeo's judgement on Franklin. If they don't think they can motivate him to play then he's not worth signing.

Regarding Williams: He's 39 and is facing a suspension this year. I don't see how that helps. Defensive Nose Tackle is should be a priority for this team once free agency begins.
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Old 07-22-2011, 04:16 PM   #64
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1 game doesn't define a players season and as BossChief pointed if theres anyone who can motivate Franklin it would be Romeo. I'll defer to Pioli and Romeo's judgement on Franklin. If they don't think they can motivate him to play then he's not worth signing.

Regarding Williams: He's 39 and is facing a suspension this year. I don't see how that helps. Defensive Nose Tackle is should be a priority for this team once free agency begins.
he's been facing that same suspension for SEVERAL years. nothing has come of it
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Old 07-22-2011, 04:19 PM   #65
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he's been facing that same suspension for SEVERAL years. nothing has come of it
Because it went to court. They finally made a ruling in April.


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Old 07-22-2011, 04:36 PM   #66
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So, the case got decided while the lockout was in effect?
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Old 07-22-2011, 05:48 PM   #67
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So, the case got decided while the lockout was in effect?
Yes in April. Why wouldn't they?
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Old 07-22-2011, 05:52 PM   #68
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I'll throw another name out there who's underrated: Anthony Adams. I doubt he'll command a huge salary but he's a pretty good player.
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Old 07-22-2011, 05:57 PM   #69
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I was just asking because I still think it would be bogus as hell for the NFL to be able to punish players for their actions while they were told they didn't work for them till a new deal is agreed upon.

If the courts punishment of the player causes him to miss team functions of some sort, that's a different story...but if a player is "laid off" he shouldn't be punished for his actions when he wasn't an employee.

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Old 07-22-2011, 05:58 PM   #70
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Sign him and Franklin.....hey we got the money, and we need depth at that position.
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Shit yeah. You can't lean on him, but he's a great fit in a NT rotation (which is pretty much what we have, or should aspire to, since we don't have a true starting-caliber NT).
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I was just asking because I still think it would be bogus as hell for the NFL to be able to punish players for their actions while they were told they didn't work for them till a new deal is agreed upon.

If the courts punishment of the player causes him to miss team functions of some sort, that's a different story...but if a player is "laid off" he shouldn't be punished for his actions when he wasn't an employee.

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My understanding is the whole thing was a bunch of legal bullshit that i'm not even going attempt to read or understand because as we've seen this week/month they're all ****ing pricks.
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Old 07-22-2011, 06:29 PM   #73
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In the "3 free agents" thread, I already made the case for signing Pat Williams, probably more than a week ago.
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Williams (without a suspension) would be a better option for us going forward IMO than Franklin would.

I doubt very highly that he has more than one good season left (and another one after that of average to below average quality) but he would help our defense immensely in the regular and post season.

I still think there will be better options that hit the open market before this is all said and done. We haven't even seen the vet cuts yet.

Pat could probably help Powe transition as well. Quality vet run plugger.

Seems a little like a Tractor Traylor type pickup by the early pats.
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Old 07-22-2011, 08:46 PM   #75
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I still think that Chris Hoke, as things stnd right now, is the best option on the market.
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