Chiefs Im taking things back...I hope the Chiefs tank the season - Page 5

RedThat · 08-29-2011, 12:49 PM

Before I said I wanted the Chiefs to be successful this season but now I changed my mind.

I honestly hope they fail. I know I look stupid for saying this, but I really don't give a sh*t. Please bear with me here and I'll give you my explanations as to why I want them to fail this season.

I just simply think now is the right time for them to do that. That is all. I have come to the conclusion and decided that we are not going anywhere with Cassel. Im not placing my hopes in him. **** it. I lost faith. He is not the answer. And I am now jumping on the bandwagon with the rest of the fans out there that we should draft a quarterback in the first round. Luck? possibly? It is wishful thinking at this point but I would never rule it out as a possiblity. You just never know.

But I would love and absolutely love to have Andrew Luck. The guy is a gamer and will be an excellent NFL quarterback imo. But what will it take to get him? Thats the question. Do we have to finish in the bottom 5 in the league? Or, will he go #1 overall? I don't know. I can't see us being the worst team in the league. We have too much talent. But for once, I want this thing to be right for **** sakes. We do this by drafting a QB in the first. **** these journeyman no good projectory quarterbacks. they get you nothing in the end except 9-7 or 10-6 seasons at best. which is exactly what happened last year. Instead, I want the homerun. In fact, I want the grandslam. Im thinking big. Even if it means sacrificing this season to ensure a better longterm future. Im relying on hope brothers and sisters.

I repeat, this team has a lot of talent. In fact, we have an abundance of talent. We have enough talent and good coaching on defense to be a top 10 D. We have a great running game, good young interior Olineman, good Wrs, good TE. The Chiefs are not that far off, believe me. But, we are missing a few big components that could easily make this team a failure and set them back a year or two. One of those is we lack a true legit QB, and a set of bookend OT's. Those are BIG BIG pieces to the puzzle of a championship team.

I think Cassel is going to lose us games this year. Teams will be prepared to shut down the running game and we will be forced to pass. We don't have the QB or OTs to make an effective passing game. I don't expect us to improve in pass offense. Plus, we lost Charlie Weis as OC. I thought he made up for a lot. Big big loss there. One of the brightest minds in the game. And we have one of the worst offensive coaches in Bill Muir running the show. The offense will sputter big time this season. The defense will do its job but will be on the field long enough to wear down in games thanks in large part to the uncomplimentary offense we have. Do that against good teams and you're done. And we are going to play a lot of good teams. So.....the fact, we have a tough schedule, this team could be in for a long, losing season. It seriously wouldn't surprise me? there is nothing I have seen this preseason to say, "yeah this team has it." Nothing like that. They have been a joke. I know, I know its preseason. As most would say, big effing deal. IT IS A BIG DEAL! We should care because its part of preparation. Just the fact that Haley is not concerned about preseason and treating it like scrimmage raises a big red flag. What kind of a ****ing NFL coach does that? honestly. Who has done that this year? Nobody except boneheaded Todd. **** him. If he ****'s this season up because of that, he should be out the door. And that may be worth it? It might not be a bad thing if we could get a REAL coach and quarterback in here.

Haley can easily screw this thing up. He makes a lot of boneheaded/head scratching decisions at times. Lets face it, he had a lot of help last year with Weis. Lets see how good he really is without a bright offensive mind.
I just don't have a good feeling about him at all. He is going to **** us up and run us down to the ground.

Buns · 08-29-2011, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefGator

Woah, woah.. let's wait until all the cuts go through.

Stanzi may change his jersey number then.

Hope he doesn't. 13 is my favorite number. He could have taken 12, his college number.

Brock · 08-29-2011, 01:48 PM

The season hasn't started, and here's an idiot posting that he hopes the team tanks.

The facepalm gif isn't big enough.

lcarus · 08-29-2011, 01:49 PM

I used to think this way when we had the great QB battle between Damon Huard and Tyler Thigpen. But now, we have a solid young team that is capable of winning each time they step onto the gridiron. The NFL media has hammered it into everyone's heads that you MUST have a Tom Brady or Peyton Manning to win a Super Bowl. Yeah those QBs are gonna win Super Bowls. But I don't think it's impossible to win with a QB that can, at the very least, manage a game by not making a lot of mistakes.

With a good running game and defense, you can still win in this league.

ReynardMuldrake · 08-29-2011, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by RedThat

I said lose for a better future.

Do some of you believe that sometimes you got to be worse to get better?

Do some of you believe that success is not a smooth road? that you will encounter a few bumps along the way with a few setbacks.

Do some of you fail to understand that I care more about the teams long term success than I do about now?

Absolutely not. **** that noise. It's one thing to be optimistic about failure, it's another to actually wish your team to fail in the future. If we're 0-15 I'm still rooting to win that last game.

Like I said, you don't win by losing. Shitty teams worry about stupid shit like that. Good teams worry about winning.

RedThat · 08-29-2011, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge

So what exactly is the point of your thread other than to stretch "I hate Cassel" into a short story?

To draft a quarterback in the EARLY rounds to help better our chances of success.

To point out that we are going nowhere with Cassel and we are better off making changes even if it means setting ourselves back with a losing season and getting a QB who could potentially be great.

To imply that I want my team to win a superbowl in the future. And that will only happen by drafting an elite QB and getting rid of Cassel.

My thread is based more on hope than anything. People are just taking it the wrong way.

Reerun_KC · 08-29-2011, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

Cassel bashers have had 3 years to vent out frustrations. It's come in the form of Cassel threads, Sanchez threads, McCluster threads, Pioli threads, Star Trek threads, and (of course) draft threads. And so much more, including stuff in DC

RedThat chose to keep his doubts suppressed for awhile. What you're seeing here is the releasing of that anger he's been keeping hidden deep down for a long time.

You'll be fine, RedThat. Try drinking a nice hot cup of Ricky Stanzi. It will take the edge off.

Its been awhile since we had a grown man come right out and say that he would love to take a "load" off a football player...

I guess GoChiefs was the last that I remember...

Make sure you take a towel with you...

FYI, its a joke, since you suck at sarcasm...

**The Franchise** · 08-29-2011, 01:52 PM

You do realize that even if we somehow go 3-13......Cassel would still be our starting QB next year? Unless he completely shits the bed and throws 40 INTs and 2 TDs.....they're not cutting bait. They'll blame it on our pass protection and you would watch this team take a LT with the #1 pick.

bowener · 08-29-2011, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by boogblaster

huh ....

I have noticed you like the extra long ellipsis.

RedThat · 08-29-2011, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by lcarus

I used to think this way when we had the great QB battle between Damon Huard and Tyler Thigpen. But now, we have a solid young team that is capable of winning each time they step onto the gridiron. The NFL media has hammered it into everyone's heads that you MUST have a Tom Brady or Peyton Manning to win a Super Bowl. Yeah those QBs are gonna win Super Bowls. But I don't think it's impossible to win with a QB that can, at the very least, manage a game by not making a lot of mistakes.

With a good running game and defense, you can still win in this league.

I don't believe that. It is very rare that you win a SB without an elite QB.

I want an elite QB. Not game managers.

We do have a lot of talent. At a lot of positions. But how shameful would it be to see it go to waste because all along we knew we didn't have the QB to take us to the top?

That is where Im getting at. Id just like to see us add to the puzzle and I feel that quarterback is the key ingredient were missing. If we have a losing season it may be worth it and increase our chances of landing that guy who can be an "elite" QB in this league.

Carlota69 · 08-29-2011, 01:57 PM

I could never ever imagine wishing for The Chiefs to lose, EVER. Even if it was the end of the season and we were 1-14, vying for the 1st pick, and I was vocal about wanting them to lose so we could get the top pick, Id find myself rooting for them to win during the game.

Rooting for The Chiefs to lose IS NOT in my blood. Period.

ReynardMuldrake · 08-29-2011, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by RedThat

To draft a quarterback in the EARLY rounds to help better our chances of success.

To point out that we are going nowhere with Cassel and we are better off making changes even if it means setting ourselves back with a losing season and getting a QB who could potentially be great.

To imply that I want my team to win a superbowl in the future. And that will only happen by drafting an elite QB and getting rid of Cassel.

My thread is based more on hope than anything. People are just taking it the wrong way.

You don't have a team. Not this one, anyway. You're infatuated with a hypothetical team that doesn't even exist.

Reerun_KC · 08-29-2011, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by RedThat

I don't believe that. It is very rare that you win a SB without an elite QB.

I want an elite QB. Not game managers.

We do have a lot of talent. At a lot of positions. But how shameful would it be to see it go to waste because all along we knew we didn't have the QB to take us to the top?

That is where Im getting at. Id just like to see us add to the puzzle and I feel that quarterback is the key ingredient were missing. If we have a losing season it may be worth it and increase our chances of landing that guy who can be an "elite" QB in this league.

and you know without any doubt that you can draft that Elite QB?

And if you draft that Elite QB and he fails? You have wasted the talent of this team just the same...

Marcellus · 08-29-2011, 01:59 PM

Want me to hand you the nails after you climb up on that cross?

**luv** · 08-29-2011, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RedThat

I didn't say that. I said this year may be worth it because I think Luck is going to be a good NFL QB.

Ah, okay. Let's tank an entire season in the hopes that Luck ends up being good in the NFL AND that the Chiefs are smart like you and draft him.

/sarcasm

**RealSNR** · 08-29-2011, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Its been awhile since we had a grown man come right out and say that he would love to take a "load" off a football player...

I guess GoChiefs was the last that I remember...

Make sure you take a towel with you...

FYI, its a joke, since you suck at sarcasm...

1. Your jokes suck. So do you. You should probably stop trying to be funny.

2. What you just posted isn't sarcasm. "Since you suck at sarcasm" has absolutely nothing to do with your bad joke.

3. If you wanted to make a gay joke, there are about 453,834 different ways you could have worded it better. Again, you suck at humor.

08-29-2011, 12:49 PM
RedThat Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Earth Casino cash: $10004900	Im taking things back...I hope the Chiefs tank the season Before I said I wanted the Chiefs to be successful this season but now I changed my mind. I honestly hope they fail. I know I look stupid for saying this, but I really don't give a sht. Please bear with me here and I'll give you my explanations as to why I want them to fail this season. I just simply think now is the right time for them to do that. That is all. I have come to the conclusion and decided that we are not going anywhere with Cassel. Im not placing my hopes in him. * it. I lost faith. He is not the answer. And I am now jumping on the bandwagon with the rest of the fans out there that we should draft a quarterback in the first round. Luck? possibly? It is wishful thinking at this point but I would never rule it out as a possiblity. You just never know. But I would love and absolutely love to have Andrew Luck. The guy is a gamer and will be an excellent NFL quarterback imo. But what will it take to get him? Thats the question. Do we have to finish in the bottom 5 in the league? Or, will he go #1 overall? I don't know. I can't see us being the worst team in the league. We have too much talent. But for once, I want this thing to be right for sakes. We do this by drafting a QB in the first. these journeyman no good projectory quarterbacks. they get you nothing in the end except 9-7 or 10-6 seasons at best. which is exactly what happened last year. Instead, I want the homerun. In fact, I want the grandslam. Im thinking big. Even if it means sacrificing this season to ensure a better longterm future. Im relying on hope brothers and sisters. I repeat, this team has a lot of talent. In fact, we have an abundance of talent. We have enough talent and good coaching on defense to be a top 10 D. We have a great running game, good young interior Olineman, good Wrs, good TE. The Chiefs are not that far off, believe me. But, we are missing a few big components that could easily make this team a failure and set them back a year or two. One of those is we lack a true legit QB, and a set of bookend OT's. Those are BIG BIG pieces to the puzzle of a championship team. I think Cassel is going to lose us games this year. Teams will be prepared to shut down the running game and we will be forced to pass. We don't have the QB or OTs to make an effective passing game. I don't expect us to improve in pass offense. Plus, we lost Charlie Weis as OC. I thought he made up for a lot. Big big loss there. One of the brightest minds in the game. And we have one of the worst offensive coaches in Bill Muir running the show. The offense will sputter big time this season. The defense will do its job but will be on the field long enough to wear down in games thanks in large part to the uncomplimentary offense we have. Do that against good teams and you're done. And we are going to play a lot of good teams. So.....the fact, we have a tough schedule, this team could be in for a long, losing season. It seriously wouldn't surprise me? there is nothing I have seen this preseason to say, "yeah this team has it." Nothing like that. They have been a joke. I know, I know its preseason. As most would say, big effing deal. IT IS A BIG DEAL! We should care because its part of preparation. Just the fact that Haley is not concerned about preseason and treating it like scrimmage raises a big red flag. What kind of a ing NFL coach does that? honestly. Who has done that this year? Nobody except boneheaded Todd. him. If he 's this season up because of that, he should be out the door. And that may be worth it? It might not be a bad thing if we could get a REAL coach and quarterback in here. Haley can easily screw this thing up. He makes a lot of boneheaded/head scratching decisions at times. Lets face it, he had a lot of help last year with Weis. Lets see how good he really is without a bright offensive mind. I just don't have a good feeling about him at all. He is going to ** us up and run us down to the ground.
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lcarus Everybody Lies. Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: 22 Acacia Avenue Casino cash: $-1739887	I used to think this way when we had the great QB battle between Damon Huard and Tyler Thigpen. But now, we have a solid young team that is capable of winning each time they step onto the gridiron. The NFL media has hammered it into everyone's heads that you MUST have a Tom Brady or Peyton Manning to win a Super Bowl. Yeah those QBs are gonna win Super Bowls. But I don't think it's impossible to win with a QB that can, at the very least, manage a game by not making a lot of mistakes. With a good running game and defense, you can still win in this league.
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The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2075047	You do realize that even if we somehow go 3-13......Cassel would still be our starting QB next year? Unless he completely shits the bed and throws 40 INTs and 2 TDs.....they're not cutting bait. They'll blame it on our pass protection and you would watch this team take a LT with the #1 pick.
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