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Old 08-31-2011, 10:29 PM   #46
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don't get excited, but i've been curious about why do you think they attacked us?

didn't there have to be some sort of reason, at least in their minds?

or is it simply like bush said, that they hate us for our freedoms?
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Old 08-31-2011, 10:29 PM   #47
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don't get excited, but i've been curious about why do you think they attacked us?

didn't there have to be some sort of reason, at least in their minds?

or is it simply like bush said, that they hate us for our freedoms?
No, cause they are psychotics who are extremely religious. They use their religion as an excuse to kill period. If it is not us, it is some Jews, or Europe, or another Islamic sect.

Violence and radical Islam go together like peanut butter and jelly.

Frankie's views that we brought it on ourselves is bullshit. We didn't do anything to deserve 9-11 and have our innocent civilians purposely targeted.

Message to Frankie and rest of Islamic world: If you want to be treated civilized, you have to start acting civilized.
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Old 08-31-2011, 10:36 PM   #48
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Old 08-31-2011, 10:53 PM   #49
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No, cause they are psychotics who are extremely religious. They use their religion as an excuse to kill period. If it is not us, it is some Jews, or Europe, or another Islamic sect.

Violence and radical Islam go together like peanut butter and jelly.
definitely, totally agree with this...

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Frankie's views that we brought it on ourselves is bullshit. We didn't do anything to deserve 9-11 and have our innocent civilians purposely targeted.
totally agree that we "brought it upon ourelves" is pretty much bullshit...

we didn't "deserve" anything like 9-11...

but why did they attack us? why were we their target? why 9-11?

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out of the billion muslims, a small group of radical crazies doesn't make all muslim societies uncivilized...

in fact, i'm looking forward to developments in libya where radicals did participate in the rebellion, but have no particular power in the ntc or amongst the rebel fighters (per al jazeera)...

the general feeling in the arab street is that gaining freedom will make aq irrelevant in terms of popular support, and i think they're right about that...
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Old 08-31-2011, 11:29 PM   #50
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[QUOTE=go bowe;7868127]definitely,


out of the billion muslims, a small group of radical crazies doesn't make all muslim societies uncivilized...

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After living in the Arab world more then the civilized world in the last 3 years I couldn't disagree more
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Old 08-31-2011, 11:45 PM   #51
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definitely, totally agree with this...



totally agree that we "brought it upon ourelves" is pretty much bullshit...

we didn't "deserve" anything like 9-11...

but why did they attack us? why were we their target? why 9-11?



out of the billion muslims, a small group of radical crazies doesn't make all muslim societies uncivilized...

in fact, i'm looking forward to developments in libya where radicals did participate in the rebellion, but have no particular power in the ntc or amongst the rebel fighters (per al jazeera)...

the general feeling in the arab street is that gaining freedom will make aq irrelevant in terms of popular support, and i think they're right about that...

The uprisings in places such as Lybia, Egypt and elsewhere have me holding my breath to see who rises to power when we knew what we had with the old regimes. Syria could be different because of their closness with Iran and the Sunni majority in that country.

Being anti american and anti jew is the popular thing though. They have always hated Jews, and the very existance of Israel. Israel is our ally, and we side more with their values. That makes us an easly target for their hatred.

The idea of someone strapping a bomb on a child to go and murder a bunch of innocent women and children on a bus or cafe or hijack a plane (that could easily break apart in mid air btw) is as disturbing and foreign to us as was the Munich massacre or the Beirut bombing etc etc.

Reason for 9-11, is like wanting to know the reason for the Manson or Bundy murders. They are psychotics who like to kill and are full of hate.

Obviously, not ALL muslims are radical or uncivilized. But I think the radical group is a lot larger than most think. The ones that aren't in that catagory in the Islamic world should be the ones shouldering the burden for stamping out the radicals and getting control of the Imams or Sheikhs from preaching their hate to begin with.
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Old 09-01-2011, 12:34 AM   #52
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The uprisings in places such as Lybia, Egypt and elsewhere have me holding my breath to see who rises to power when we knew what we had with the old regimes. Syria could be different because of their closness with Iran and the Sunni majority in that country.

Being anti american and anti jew is the popular thing though. They have always hated Jews, and the very existance of Israel. Israel is our ally, and we side more with their values. That makes us an easly target for their hatred.

The idea of someone strapping a bomb on a child to go and murder a bunch of innocent women and children on a bus or cafe or hijack a plane (that could easily break apart in mid air btw) is as disturbing and foreign to us as was the Munich massacre or the Beirut bombing etc etc.

Reason for 9-11, is like wanting to know the reason for the Manson or Bundy murders. They are psychotics who like to kill and are full of hate.

Obviously, not ALL muslims are radical or uncivilized. But I think the radical group is a lot larger than most think. The ones that aren't in that catagory in the Islamic world should be the ones shouldering the burden for stamping out the radicals and getting control of the Imams or Sheikhs from preaching their hate to begin with.
yes, terrorists are sick ****s, but why did they target us? it's more than just psychotic hatred...

they could have attacked anywhere, in london or paris or saudi arabia...

maybe if we knew why we might be better prepared to avoid the next attack...

that's the only reason i ask why...
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No, cause they are psychotics who are extremely religious. They use their religion as an excuse to kill period. If it is not us, it is some Jews, or Europe, or another Islamic sect.

Violence and radical Islam go together like peanut butter and jelly.

Frankie's views that we brought it on ourselves is bullshit. We didn't do anything to deserve 9-11 and have our innocent civilians purposely targeted.

Message to Frankie and rest of Islamic world: If you want to be treated civilized, you have to start acting civilized.
Do you wipe after your brain works like this?

Now please get the **** out of my thread.
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WTF!?!? I go to sleep and this soccer thread turns into a terrorism thread.
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There's "my thread" again. Does anyone else find that a little odd?
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I find it odd that your posting in Frankies thread without his permission knowing good and well that he is reporting you to the mods.
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totally agree that we "brought it upon ourelves" is pretty much bullshit...
go bowe, my friend, he's been deliberately misquoting me all over the place. Ask him to give you a link to my alleged post in which I allegedly said that the US brought this on itself. Read that post in the context of the discussion, meaning read the thread to get there. I KNOW your mind is more open, your brain is between your ears where it belongs, as opposed to FC58's which is between his butt cheeks.

Meanwhile I'm sure the fact that we are discussing a DC matter in the lounge has not escaped you. This thread is about a Soccer incident.

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We didn't "deserve" anything like 9-11...
I totally agree. I also totally agree with the notion that, Iranians didn't deserve to have their one real chance in centuries to establish a Democracy taken away from them for oil. Also, American Indians didn't deserve to be depleted and relegated to afterthoughts via force, violence and cheating. Most of a 100,000 Iraqis didn't deserve to die in a bogus war for profit. Nor did most of the West's life draining policies for a century were deservingly applied on the people of the Middle East, Africa, or other banks of natural resources. None of this is deserved nor justified, but it's a ****ed up world in which all parties, when their terms came, acted with selfishness.

Brain-in-the-butt58 is just not equipped to understand the vast meaning of words and sentences. He just reads and processes words literally as he perceives they are said. Much like a first grader who is just learning to read. The difference is, there is reasonable hope for that first grader to eventually develop an analytical brain to understand the meaning of words beyond their literal spelling. ForBrain-in-the-butt58, that ship has sadly sailed, judging by his asinine posts and incessant barfing up and re-chewing the same shit.

That all said, now I'm sure you have noticed that we are discussing a DC matter in the lounge. This thread is about a Soccer injury.
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The uprisings in places such as Lybia, Egypt and elsewhere have me holding my breath to see who rises to power when we knew what we had with the old regimes. Syria could be different because of their closness with Iran and the Sunni majority in that country.

Being anti american and anti jew is the popular thing though. They have always hated Jews, and the very existance of Israel. Israel is our ally, and we side more with their values. That makes us an easly target for their hatred.

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Reason for 9-11, is like wanting to know the reason for the Manson or Bundy murders. They are psychotics who like to kill and are full of hate.

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GET THIS SHIT TO DC WHERE IT BELONGS! Are you this thick? Or did you crap away the rest of your brain this morning?
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