Chiefs Re-Signing Brandon Carr: What Do You Do - Page 6

Direckshun · 12-05-2011, 01:41 AM

There's about four more week of football ahead of us.

We've managed to wrap up Brandon Flowers during the season, Tamba Hali this offseason, DJ and Jamaal Charles last offseason...

This offseason, we have two very important players hitting free agency, and one franchise tag.

The tag goes to Bowe, no sweat. It's impossible to find franchise WRs, and when you have one, you must keep it. He's Top 10 at his position. Carr, for all his talent, is not. He's maybe top 25.

But what would you do if:

Carr (or, more likely, his agent) knows Carr is bound to be drastically overpaid on the free agent market, as young talent almost always is.

He knows the Chiefs desperately want Carr to stay on board. And the Chiefs have no leverage to keep him on board because their franchise tag is tied up with Bowe.

So knowing he has ALL the leverage in this situation, Carr opens big:

"I want 5 years, $50 million, $22 million guaranteed.

Just like my teammate, Brandon Flowers." (And other top flight corners like Johnathan Joseph, who got almost the exact same deal.)

You can haggle with Carr, but keep in mind, you're incredibly time-pressured, and Carr knows he has the leverage here. Even if you get him to come down, it's going to be nickels and dimes lower, not much else.

Do you (a.) sign Carr to a damn near identical deal to Brandon Flowers, or (b.)let Carr walk and just collect the 3rd or 4th round compensatory pick next year.

That's likely going to be our options at this point, folks.

Poll forthcoming.

jd1020 · 12-05-2011, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

There's 2.5 million that could have gone to Carr instead of being flushed down the crapper with a flea flicker.

Ya, because claiming Orton has an effect on next years salary...

Mr. Arrowhead · 12-05-2011, 11:04 AM

You keep Carr, this defense is on the verge of being one of the elite defenses in the NFL

**BigMeatballDave** · 12-05-2011, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

There's 2.5 million that could have gone to Carr instead of being flushed down the crapper with a flea flicker.

Seriously? That has nothing to do with next yr.

Chiefnj2 · 12-05-2011, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

Ya, because claiming Orton has an effect on next years salary...

I'm sure Clark is happy about a wasted 2.5 million. He's been a penny pincher since taking over.

jd1020 · 12-05-2011, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

I'm sure Clark is happy about a wasted 2.5 million. He's been a penny pincher since taking over.

I'm sure you have no idea what you are talking about.

Chiefnj2 · 12-05-2011, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

I'm sure you have no idea what you are talking about.

60 million in cap space the last 2 years, and you think he's not frugal.

jd1020 · 12-05-2011, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

60 million in cap space the last 2 years, and you think he's not frugal.

Acting like claiming Orton effects next year and you think you still have a clue.

Chiefnj2 · 12-05-2011, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

Acting like claiming Orton effects next year and you think you still have a clue.

It might effect Clark's own internal budget.

kcchiefsus · 12-05-2011, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

Congratulations. You're paying your starting corners $100 million dollars.

Neither of them is All Pro. And one of them isn't even a Pro Bowler.

It's not your money, and we easily have enough cap room, so why worry about it?

Nightfyre · 12-05-2011, 11:21 AM

One other, minor note:
We won't have to pay Cassel next year (at least, not nearly as much by all reports.)

that sorta helps.

Sfeihc · 12-05-2011, 12:44 PM

Re-sign him, best CB duo in the league.

**Shaid** · 12-05-2011, 01:02 PM

Resign him now and make a bunch of his bonus, etc. go towards this year since we're under and will have to spend that money evenly amongst players anyways. win/win

Micjones · 12-05-2011, 01:04 PM

Pay him.
He's not gonna get Flowers jack, but give him a nice fair market offer.

Direckshun · 12-05-2011, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

Pay him.
He's not gonna get Flowers jack, but give him a nice fair market offer.

He won't take it.

He wants Flowers money. Take it or leave it.

jd1020 · 12-05-2011, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

He won't take it.

He wants Flowers money. Take it or leave it.

Link?

View Poll Results: What to do with Carr?
Resign Carr at basically Flowers' contract.	185	89.81%
Let Carr walk. Draft a corner high. Collect a 3rd or 4th compensatory pick next draft.	17	8.25%
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12-05-2011, 01:41 AM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2103447	Re-Signing Brandon Carr: What Do You Do There's about four more week of football ahead of us. We've managed to wrap up Brandon Flowers during the season, Tamba Hali this offseason, DJ and Jamaal Charles last offseason... This offseason, we have two very important players hitting free agency, and one franchise tag. The tag goes to Bowe, no sweat. It's impossible to find franchise WRs, and when you have one, you must keep it. He's Top 10 at his position. Carr, for all his talent, is not. He's maybe top 25. But what would you do if: Carr (or, more likely, his agent) knows Carr is bound to be drastically overpaid on the free agent market, as young talent almost always is. He knows the Chiefs desperately want Carr to stay on board. And the Chiefs have no leverage to keep him on board because their franchise tag is tied up with Bowe. So knowing he has ALL the leverage in this situation, Carr opens big: "I want 5 years, $50 million, $22 million guaranteed. Just like my teammate, Brandon Flowers." (And other top flight corners like Johnathan Joseph, who got almost the exact same deal.) You can haggle with Carr, but keep in mind, you're incredibly time-pressured, and Carr knows he has the leverage here. Even if you get him to come down, it's going to be nickels and dimes lower, not much else. Do you (a.) sign Carr to a damn near identical deal to Brandon Flowers, or (b.)let Carr walk and just collect the 3rd or 4th round compensatory pick next year. That's likely going to be our options at this point, folks. Poll forthcoming.
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Sfeihc It's All Good Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $10010133	Re-sign him, best CB duo in the league.
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Micjones Whose house? Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: KCMO Casino cash: $10005180	Pay him. He's not gonna get Flowers jack, but give him a nice fair market offer. __________________ It's like when I'm right I'm right, when I'm wrong I could been right, so I'm still right cause I coulda been wrong.
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