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ShowtimeSBMVP · 12-06-2011, 11:55 AM

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Confirmed: #Marlins have made 10-year offer to Pujols. Source says two sides trying to work through no-trade issue. MORE #MLB

DJ's left nut · 12-06-2011, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Mami isn't a small market, they were just hamstrung playing in Dolphins Stadium.

They're hamstrung by playing in a market that doesn't give a shit.

**Saul Good** · 12-06-2011, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by sedated

I think anyone would be stupid to go to Miami. They are "trying" baseball out in their new market, and are probably thinking they can dump everyone if they aren't selling out games. That's why the trade clause is the hang-up.

Anyone who signs there better be ready to have very little input on where they are traded after a year or so.

The no trade clause shouldn't matter. Nobodys going to take on that contract unless Miami pays for 80% of it.

Royal Fanatic · 12-06-2011, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by sedated

I think anyone would be stupid to go to Miami. They are "trying" baseball out in their new market, and are probably thinking they can dump everyone if they aren't selling out games. That's why the trade clause is the hang-up.

Anyone who signs there better be ready to have very little input on where they are traded after a year or so.

Miami isn't exactly a new market. They've been around since 1993 and won two World Series. Changing the name to the Miami Marlins doesn't mean they are trying baseball out in their new market.

evenfall · 12-06-2011, 12:21 PM

I'm not sure Pujols cares what people in Kansas City think of Miami as a sports town. $200 mill is $200 mill. (Actually more in Miami since Florida doesn't have a state income tax.)...

I'm not convinced its a bad sports town. The heat have plenty of support now that theory product is upgraded. The dolphins have good support. The Panthers don't but that franchise is run by a bunch of clowns. Miami as a sports town is probably about average. Then you add in money and lifestyle.

I don't follow the Cardinals - is he upset with the team? A player like this usually finds a place where he is king and doesn't leave.

jd1020 · 12-06-2011, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Does Pujols strike you as the cabanas and Cubans type?

Obviously I could be wrong, but I just don't see AP hitting the night-clubs and closing the bars with LeBron and the boys.

Besides, baseball's a lot different animal than most other sports when it comes to lifestyle decisions.

During the baseball season, you really don't have the energy to go out there and party all the time, not if you value your craft. You spend a hell of a lot of time on the road and when you're home you try to spend some time with your family (presuming you have one. Albert is, by all accounts, a family man). Baseball's a hell of a grind; you play every day and if you don't want to go out there with dead legs, you don't go hitting the club after your 10:30p finish.

During the offseason, you can play in St. Louis and travel to Miami for the winter if need be.

I get it for NBA players; living in Miami for a winter sport when you're going to spend 2/3 of your time in your home city is a hell of a deal. But there's a reason that hasn't extended to baseball players.

If he moves to the Marlins; it's purely for the money. It's his choice to make, but don't make it more than it is.

There's more to Florida than clubs.

Pasta Little Brioni · 12-06-2011, 12:21 PM

He jus wanna get a wing

oldandslow · 12-06-2011, 12:22 PM

REF - 23,000,000 per year

What does that come too, about 46,000 per at bat based on 500 AB's

Good grief...He makes more in a couple of minutes swinging a baseball bat than a teacher makes in a year.

evenfall · 12-06-2011, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by sedated

I think anyone would be stupid to go to Miami. They are "trying" baseball out in their new market, and are probably thinking they can dump everyone if they aren't selling out games. That's why the trade clause is the hang-up.

Anyone who signs there better be ready to have very little input on where they are traded after a year or so.

Yeeeeah... Something tells me that Albert effing Pujols will be able to negotiate a no trade clause for himself... Just a hunch

ChiefsCountry · 12-06-2011, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by oldandslow

Good grief...He makes more in a couple of minutes swinging a baseball bat than a teacher makes in a year.

And we aren't sitting here discussing every move a teacher makes.

vailpass · 12-06-2011, 12:27 PM

Going from playing in front of one of the most passionate, knowledgeable baseball fan bases in the world to playing for the Miami Marlins? Ugh.

DJ's left nut · 12-06-2011, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

There's more to Florida than clubs.

So again - why are the Marlins having to overpay like the Royals would to attract FA talent outside of the NBA?

After nearly 2 decades of existence, I have yet to see any indications that there are 'lifestyle' considerations that are driving forces to FA defections to Miami.

jd1020 · 12-06-2011, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

So again - why are the Marlins having to overpay like the Royals would to attract FA talent outside of the NBA?

After nearly 2 decades of existence, I have yet to see any indications that there are 'lifestyle' considerations that are driving forces to FA defections to Miami.

Maybe because they aren't considered a contender and have never kept a bank roll to be consistently in the hunt?

There's only a select few that have money as their #1 priority.

Most have winning as their #1 priority, but if the money gets so ridiculous that you can't pass it up... you take it.

ChiefsCountry · 12-06-2011, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

So again - why are the Marlins having to overpay like the Royals would to attract FA talent outside of the NBA?

After nearly 2 decades of existence, I have yet to see any indications that there are 'lifestyle' considerations that are driving forces to FA defections to Miami.

They did pretty good their first ten years in the league and one time they were on alot of free agent lists. Being strung out with a piss poor lease and playing in Dolphins Stadium hurt them big time.

Stewie · 12-06-2011, 12:32 PM

Are they going to demand proof of age before he signs that 10-year deal?

MIAdragon · 12-06-2011, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Yep Ramirez is moving to 3rd base.

or to the OF.

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