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**BossChief** · 12-07-2011, 11:54 PM

I started the year in full support of Haley. This team was developing into one of the better teams in football and were young across the board...despite being handcuffed to Matt Cassel. The growth in almost all of our young talent was apparent and easily recognizable.

His fiery attitude is infectious and the team plays with that emotion and passion. Haleys motivational skills are up there with about anyones.

For that, I was willing to overlook his mismanagement of situational football and a few other deficiencies that come with a first time coach and assumed that he would improve in those areas, with experience.

This is one hell of a hard season to judge because of the lack of an offseason. I am willing to give him a partial pass on the early part of the schedule because I still believe it was the right plan if we are looking at the long term big picture. It just sucks that we coincidentally ran into the injury bug at crucial positions early on.

All that said, his offense is embarrassing to watch while Romeos defense is seemingly entering GOD mode without, arguably, its best player. Everyone on earth (sans Haley, seemingly) can see that Palko has no place in the NFL and Haley is seemingly OK with betting half the year on him. I dont understand what Haley sees from a quarterback that has the weakest arm Ive ever seen in the NFL.

I still think that Haley deserves a shot at it with a real quarterback. This team is giving good effort and I think most agree it would be a contender with a real quarterback. Who could have this team in position to contend with these quarterbacks (Im not even gonna touch the Stanzi situation)?

I guess the way we deal with the remaining 4 games plays a lot into this, but at this point I think it would be a mistake to fire Haley either during or after this year, but I can see why someone would disagree with that opinion and thats why I want to see how a poll on this topic shakes out.

Do YOU think it would be a mistake to fire Todd Haley and replace him prior to next year?

jd1020 · 12-09-2011, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

It can if you have shitty QBs. JC is that important. Especially when the QB ****ing Matt Cassel.

This team has plenty of weapons on offensive that it shouldn't just completely fall apart because Charles went down.

But when you continually see Dexter running up the middle and Battle running outside, there is no hope for this offense.

**BigMeatballDave** · 12-09-2011, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

This team has plenty of weapons on offensive that it shouldn't just completely fall apart because Charles went down.

But when you continually see Dexter running up the middle and Battle running outside, there is no hope for this offense.

So, shitty QB play means absolutely nothing to you?

jd1020 · 12-09-2011, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

So, shitty QB play means absolutely nothing to you?

Denver has 100 more points scored. Their QB completes 47% of his passes.

**BigMeatballDave** · 12-09-2011, 09:52 PM

Obviously, lousy QBs dont matter here. Lets just fire the HC and keep Cassel. Awesome.

Have fun watching McDumbass from the sidelines next season.

ShowtimeSBMVP · 12-09-2011, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

Denver has 100 more points scored. Their QB completes 47% of his passes.

Orton for denver 5 games 105 points

tebow 7 games 130 points

jd1020 · 12-09-2011, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

Orton for denver 5 games 105 points

tebow 7 games 130 points

Denver has scored 256 points.

But we'll just say Tebow has led his team to 130 points, I'm not going to look it up.

Chiefs for the season have 163.

KCrockaholic · 12-09-2011, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

Orton for denver 5 games 105 points

tebow 7 games 130 points

I assume that takes into account the defensive touchdowns?

ShowtimeSBMVP · 12-09-2011, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by KCrockaholic

I assume that takes into account the defensive touchdowns?

Yes sir and punt returns they had alot

ShowtimeSBMVP · 12-09-2011, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

Denver has scored 256 points.

But we'll just say Tebow has led his team to 130 points, I'm not going to look it up.

Chiefs for the season have 163.

O yea denver has a running game something the CHIEFS DONT.

jd1020 · 12-09-2011, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

O yea denver has a running game something the CHIEFS DONT.

Chiefs are 9th in rushing yards per game.

Hammock Parties · 12-09-2011, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

O yea denver has a running game something the CHIEFS DONT.

The Chiefs have the 10th ranked running game.

ShowtimeSBMVP · 12-09-2011, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

Chiefs are 9th in rushing yards per game.

and denver is number 1 denver 160 yards a game chiefs 120 that is huge in the NFL

jd1020 · 12-09-2011, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

and denver is number 1

Your arguments are so amazing.

"Chiefs dont have a rushing game."

They are 9th in the league.

"Well... Denver is #1."

See if you can come up with something for this...

The Colts have the 26th rushing attack in the league.

The 29th ranked QB in the league.

They have scored 11 more offensive points than the Chiefs.

Hammock Parties · 12-09-2011, 10:03 PM

Chiefs and O's fan is almost like the Knowmo version of the true fan.

Tell me, O, do you also believe in angels?

KCrockaholic · 12-09-2011, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Omega

The Chiefs have the 10th ranked running game.

That's actually somewhat impressive considering Jamaal has missed the season. And then you realize our YPC is 3.9. One of the worst in the league.

View Poll Results: Would it be a mistake to fire Todd Haley?
yes, it would be a mistake. Haley deserves a shot with a healthy squad he built.	142	61.21%
No. Ive seen enough. Next, please.	79	34.05%
Im not voting in any of these things till I see what GAZ thinks.	11	4.74%
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12-07-2011, 11:54 PM
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1615912	Would it be a mistake to fire Todd Haley? I started the year in full support of Haley. This team was developing into one of the better teams in football and were young across the board...despite being handcuffed to Matt Cassel. The growth in almost all of our young talent was apparent and easily recognizable. His fiery attitude is infectious and the team plays with that emotion and passion. Haleys motivational skills are up there with about anyones. For that, I was willing to overlook his mismanagement of situational football and a few other deficiencies that come with a first time coach and assumed that he would improve in those areas, with experience. This is one hell of a hard season to judge because of the lack of an offseason. I am willing to give him a partial pass on the early part of the schedule because I still believe it was the right plan if we are looking at the long term big picture. It just sucks that we coincidentally ran into the injury bug at crucial positions early on. All that said, his offense is embarrassing to watch while Romeos defense is seemingly entering GOD mode without, arguably, its best player. Everyone on earth (sans Haley, seemingly) can see that Palko has no place in the NFL and Haley is seemingly OK with betting half the year on him. I dont understand what Haley sees from a quarterback that has the weakest arm Ive ever seen in the NFL. I still think that Haley deserves a shot at it with a real quarterback. This team is giving good effort and I think most agree it would be a contender with a real quarterback. Who could have this team in position to contend with these quarterbacks (Im not even gonna touch the Stanzi situation)? I guess the way we deal with the remaining 4 games plays a lot into this, but at this point I think it would be a mistake to fire Haley either during or after this year, but I can see why someone would disagree with that opinion and thats why I want to see how a poll on this topic shakes out. Do YOU think it would be a mistake to fire Todd Haley and replace him prior to next year?
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