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View Poll Results: Would it be a mistake to fire Todd Haley?
yes, it would be a mistake. Haley deserves a shot with a healthy squad he built. 142 61.21%
No. Ive seen enough. Next, please. 79 34.05%
Im not voting in any of these things till I see what GAZ thinks. 11 4.74%
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Old 12-07-2011, 11:54 PM  
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Would it be a mistake to fire Todd Haley?

I started the year in full support of Haley. This team was developing into one of the better teams in football and were young across the board...despite being handcuffed to Matt Cassel. The growth in almost all of our young talent was apparent and easily recognizable.

His fiery attitude is infectious and the team plays with that emotion and passion. Haleys motivational skills are up there with about anyones.

For that, I was willing to overlook his mismanagement of situational football and a few other deficiencies that come with a first time coach and assumed that he would improve in those areas, with experience.

This is one hell of a hard season to judge because of the lack of an offseason. I am willing to give him a partial pass on the early part of the schedule because I still believe it was the right plan if we are looking at the long term big picture. It just sucks that we coincidentally ran into the injury bug at crucial positions early on.

All that said, his offense is embarrassing to watch while Romeos defense is seemingly entering GOD mode without, arguably, its best player. Everyone on earth (sans Haley, seemingly) can see that Palko has no place in the NFL and Haley is seemingly OK with betting half the year on him. I dont understand what Haley sees from a quarterback that has the weakest arm Ive ever seen in the NFL.

I still think that Haley deserves a shot at it with a real quarterback. This team is giving good effort and I think most agree it would be a contender with a real quarterback. Who could have this team in position to contend with these quarterbacks (Im not even gonna touch the Stanzi situation)?

I guess the way we deal with the remaining 4 games plays a lot into this, but at this point I think it would be a mistake to fire Haley either during or after this year, but I can see why someone would disagree with that opinion and thats why I want to see how a poll on this topic shakes out.

Do YOU think it would be a mistake to fire Todd Haley and replace him prior to next year?
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Old 12-11-2011, 08:46 PM   #811
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Montana, Elway, Brady, Rapelisburger all make their comebacks against prevent defense, BTW.
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Old 12-11-2011, 08:47 PM   #812
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Palko is a better passer.

Tebow is a better runner.

Tebow is continually bailed out by his defense because they keep the game close. Then Tebow can come in in the 4th against prevent defense and take all the glory. Tebow is constantly 2 of 15 up until the 4th quarter.
All this is true.

But part of being bailed out by your defense is not giving the ball away, and TeBow doesn't do that.

Last week, when Palko didn't give the ball away, he got bailed out by the defense.
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Old 12-11-2011, 08:47 PM   #813
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I really ****ing hate the idiots on this board sometimes.

Defend Haley, sure. Defend Cassel, sure.

Defend Palko?

My tolerance limit has been reached.
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Old 12-11-2011, 08:48 PM   #814
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I really ****ing hate the idiots on this board sometimes.

Defend Haley, sure. Defend Cassel, sure.

Defend Palko?

My tolerance limit has been reached.
Who said anything defending Palko? Palko is ****ing horrible but he's not put in the same position as Tebow. Put Palko on the Broncos and they enjoy the same success.

Put Tebow on the Chiefs and you aren't sitting here washing his balls like he's something special.
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Old 12-11-2011, 08:48 PM   #815
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I really ****ing hate the idiots on this board sometimes.

Defend Haley, sure. Defend Cassel, sure.

Defend Palko?

My tolerance limit has been reached.
Yeah Cassel is terrible but he isn't literally the worst QB in the league. He wasn't last year or this year. Palko seems to be LITERALLY the worst in the league.
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Old 12-11-2011, 08:49 PM   #816
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Who said anything defending Palko? Palko is ****ing horrible but he's not put in the same position as Tebow. Put Palko on the Broncos and they enjoy the same success.


Palko will never ever start for another team in this league, and Tebow is going to be starting for Denver for several years.

But yeah, Palko could have Denver at 8-5.

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Old 12-11-2011, 08:49 PM   #817
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I really ****ing hate the idiots on this board sometimes.

Defend Haley, sure. Defend Cassel, sure.

Defend Palko?

My tolerance limit has been reached.
Who is defending Palko?
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Old 12-11-2011, 08:50 PM   #818
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Who said anything defending Palko? Palko is ****ing horrible but he's not put in the same position as Tebow. Put Palko on the Broncos and they enjoy the same success.
Nope.


No ****ing way. Does Palko have the field vision while running that Tebow has? Doe he have the arm to make the passes that Tebow does downfield that allows the running game to be as effective?

Most of all, does he manage to raise the play of his surrounding teamates? Denvers entire team believes.
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Old 12-11-2011, 08:50 PM   #819
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Palko will never ever start for another team in this league, and Tebow is going to be starting for Denver for several years.

But yeah, Palko could have Denver at 8-5.

Tebow will eventually flame out.
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Palko will never ever start for another team in this league, and Tebow is going to be starting for Denver for several years.

But yeah, Palko could have Denver at 8-5.

I think this run by Tebow will end up helping the rest of the AFCW longterm more than DEN. I don't see Tebow becoming good enough to beat defenses once they find a decent way to contain him.
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Damnit, I think JD just trolled the **** out of me.
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The OL is not that much of a problem. Shitty QB play can make a line look much worse than it is. Palko was today. He was holding the ball way too long.
And he probably really did have no open WRs because why give the WRs any cushion at all if the QB can't throw intermediate passes with enough juice to complete them?
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No ****ing way. Does Palko have the field vision while running that Tebow has? Doe he have the arm to make the passes that Tebow does downfield that allows the running game to be as effective?

Most of all, does he manage to raise the play of his surrounding teamates? Denvers entire team believes.
Palko hasn't been running around like Tebow.

Before todays game all you heard about was how Haley was going to run a lot of bootlegs. When did you actually see them? You saw like 3 in the second half after it was already over.
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This didn't start this year. We lost 3 games at the end of the season by a combined score of 92-17.
Against outstanding physical defenses that didn't commit their whole unit in the attempt to stop Charles.

It's the reason RBs are a dime a diozen.

Good ones, great ones can still make things happen against inferior teams, but to beat good teams, you need a QB.
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I can't believe that someone believes that Palko is better than Tebow.


Wow.
I can't believe there are people are arguing about which shitty QB is less shitty.
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