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Old 12-20-2011, 11:19 AM  
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Crennel: Orton Should be Starting QB in 2012 if He Wins Final 2 Games

This could very well be a repost, so I apologize in advance if it is. I didn't see it anywhere on the first page unless it's mixed in on another thread. Pretty interesting that Crennel has come out and said this already IMO.


Interim coach Romeo Crennel said Kyle Orton should be the Chiefs' 2012 starter if he wins the final two games.
There's a ton of uncertainty in Kansas City, so Crennel is getting way ahead of himself here. He's no lock to get the head coaching job, Orton is an impending free agent, and Matt Cassel is under contract through 2014. Still, Orton may truly be a better option than Cassel. The Chiefs would be foolish not to at least consider using him as a "bridge" to a rookie quarterback they might draft in April. Dec 20 - 8:59 AM
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Old 12-20-2011, 03:32 PM   #91
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Old 12-20-2011, 03:34 PM   #92
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Strike one on Romeo.

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Old 12-20-2011, 03:42 PM   #93
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Could be a killer for him as well if Pioli doesn't like that kind of talk.
It's really not a comment that I think Pioli would disagree with. Crennel didn't just come out and say that Orton was gonna be the guy, he just said if a guy produces, then you'd be a fool not to look at him as a potential solution moving forward.

I think it was just a flashback to when both he and Pioli were in New England in 2001, and right after they had handed Bledsoe a huge long term contract, Bledsoe went out and got hurt, and Brady came in and got the team rolling, and they ended up getting rid of Bledsoe and going with the guy who produced.

So while everyone is stuck on the idea that Pioli will never move on from Cassel, I think he will have no problem doing so if he feels like there is another guy on his team or available for the taking who is a clear cut upgrade and clear cut better fit for the team.

I'm still not convinced though that Orton is that guy based on his history. I just see him as, essentially, very similar to Cassel. Can have the occasional good game, but is way too inconsistent...
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Old 12-20-2011, 04:14 PM   #94
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Old 12-20-2011, 04:16 PM   #95
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Well, not Matt Cassel at least.
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Old 12-20-2011, 04:18 PM   #96
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I think it was just a flashback to when both he and Pioli were in New England in 2001, and right after they had handed Bledsoe a huge long term contract, Bledsoe went out and got hurt, and Brady came in and got the team rolling, and they ended up getting rid of Bledsoe and going with the guy who produced.
Bledsoe got hurt in the 2nd game of the season and Brady went on to win the frickin Super Bowl.

That's a far cry different from what will likely be 3 starts for Orton before KC goes home for the offseason because they missed the playoffs.
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Old 12-20-2011, 05:18 PM   #97
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Well, not Matt Cassel at least.

If Orton pulls a Vince Young, and the Chiefs win with no offensive production at all, but rather on returns and turnovers, what will Romeo say then?

Orton won the game??

Get real.

Romeo was doing fine. I don't like that comment...
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If Orton pulls a Vince Young, and the Chiefs win with no offensive production at all, but rather on returns and turnovers, what will Romeo say then?

Orton won the game??

Get real.

Romeo was doing fine. I don't like that comment...
What if Jason Babin was starting at qb?
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I don't think Romeo has any strikes yet.
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i haven't noticed Cassel on the sidelines the last three weeks, could that mean more than we think about his relationship with Pioli?

i mean when the colts play we see Manning on the sidelines helping the backup QB's
just curious.
Because Cassel has almost as much knowledge to pass along as Manning?

Cassel brings nothing to the table.
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Old 12-20-2011, 08:13 PM   #103
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Jesus Christ, we are talking about Kyle ****ing Orton and Matt ****ing Cassel..

People cant actually be spending time debating this shit, can they?
Do you believe Orton is a Huge upgrade over Cassel? I certainly do.

I don't think anyone here believes Orton is going to lead this or any team to a SB win.

What is worth debating is if Orton should be retained for next season.

IMO, Pioli will not draft a QB high, or even attempt to deal to move up to do so.

I believe he thinks Stanzi is the guy.
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In 1972 they did.

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