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Old 12-25-2011, 12:35 PM  
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Chiefs Must Hire Jeff Fisher

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With their Christmas Eve loss to the Oakland Raiders, the Kansas City Chiefs are on the clock for 2012. In two weeks we’ve seen what Romeo Crennel can do. Now it’s time to see what Jeff Fisher can do.

Had the Chiefs won on Saturday, coupled with losses by San Diego at Detroit and Denver at Buffalo, Kansas City had a chance to win their second consecutive AFC West title.

But that didn’t happen thanks to a horrific offensive game plan, Dwayne Bowe’s drop in the end zone in the first half and two long bombs that took advantage of KC’s pitiful deep secondary. So with the Chiefs out of the playoff chase, it’s time to get realistic about the future of this football team. That means Chairman Clark Hunt needs to hire Jeff Fisher as Kansas City’s next head coach.

I’ve seen all I need to see in regards to interim head coach Romeo Crennel. He’s a great defensive coordinator. He’s been the primary reason the Chiefs have six wins to this point in the season. But going forward, he’s not the right fit at head coach.

If you want to be the permanent head coach, you don’t allow your team to lose it’s fifth straight to Oakland at home. It’s harsh, but Crennel failed his audition to become the next head coach of the Chiefs.

Defensively, his talents are unprecedented. There isn’t a better coordinator at the NFL level than Crennel. As a head coach, he’s not as sharp. Granted, he’s inheriting the mess leftover by his predecessor, Todd Haley. But had he won on Saturday, I might have felt different.

With rumors already circulating that the Chiefs might have something in place with Jeff Fisher, it’s time to discuss his hire as a potential reality. In my view, other than Bill Cowher, who reportedly interviewed with the San Diego Chargers last week, Fisher is the only option for the Chiefs.

After continual run-ins with Titans owner Bud Adams, Fisher was let go a year ago. Ever since then, he’s kept an eye open for his next NFL gig.

Should the Chiefs hire him, Fisher will bring a coaching stability to the organization that hasn’t been present since Marty Schottenheimer. Before that, you’d have to go back to Hank Stram as a stabilizing force.

Fisher is in that class, and could spend the next 10 years at the helm of the Chiefs. I believe that’s what Clark Hunt is looking for as he takes a more hands-on role with his football team.

There’s been much said about his unwillingness to spend money, but that won’t be the case in his search for KC’s next head coach. He’s already paying general manager Scott Pioli a king’s ransom, so I can’t see why he would be stingy when it comes to grabbing one of the best coaches available.

Per our source, Hunt is prepared to pay whatever it takes to land one of the premier coaching candidates. That includes Fisher.

But does Fisher want to coach the Chiefs? He’d be a fool not to. Of all the coaching vacancies open now or in the near future, Kansas City is poised for long-standing success. With plenty of starters returning on both sides of the ball next year, a ton of cash to spend in free agency and quite likely a last place schedule in 2012, the Chiefs might even be favored to win the AFC West next year.

The rebuilding process in Kansas City is nearly over. Right now it’s a matter of Hunt, Pioli and, hopefully, Fisher, getting this team ready to take the next step. With the lockout behind us, they’ll enjoy a normal offseason.

The 2011 season should serve as a learning experience for Hunt, Pioli, the coaching staff and most of the players. There’s a fine line between the 32 teams in the NFL. On any given Sunday, any team can beat another.

In Kansas City next season, Fisher could make that dynamic work for the Chiefs and return the franchise to the playoffs.

The organization needs to seize this opportunity, learn from their previous mistakes and charge ahead. The Chiefs need to reward their enormous fan base for their long standing patience and support.

It’s time to bring in the right head coach. Someone with fresh ideas and no ties to anyone else within the organization. It’s time for a new direction.

That means it’s Fisher time in Kansas City.
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Old 12-27-2011, 09:26 AM   #226
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Old 12-27-2011, 09:32 AM   #227
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You know why Tomlin, McCarthy, and Payton were "great hires"? Big Ben, Rodgers, and Brees.
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Old 12-27-2011, 09:34 AM   #228
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Perhaps the playoffs should just be a QB skills competition, since no other position matters except QB...
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Old 12-27-2011, 09:39 AM   #229
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You know why Tomlin, McCarthy, and Payton were "great hires"? Big Ben, Rodgers, and Brees.
I think that's what pisses me off more than anything.The fact that after so many years and supposedly "cleaning house" for Pioli,we still can't develop or even draft a goddamn QB that we're able to build around is an absolute joke.I'm not necessarily including Stanzi in there because he hasn't been able to see the field yet and I'm not real sure what the kid brings to the table.
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Old 12-27-2011, 09:42 AM   #230
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You know why Tomlin, McCarthy, and Payton were "great hires"? Big Ben, Rodgers, and Brees.
Undoubtedly. But that does a tremendous disservice to the kind of teams they built. They are also tremendous coaches. A guy like norv could never do close to the things those guys did.
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Old 12-27-2011, 09:43 AM   #231
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I think that's what pisses me off more than anything.The fact that after so many years and supposedly "cleaning house" for Pioli,we still can't develop or even draft a goddamn QB that we're able to build around is an absolute joke.I'm not necessarily including Stanzi in there because he hasn't been able to see the field yet and I'm not real sure what the kid brings to the table.

Option 1

Hire Pioli, the PATS RULE BABY, go to 3-4, waste 3rd overall pick on Tyson Jackson, trade second for Cassel

or

Option 2

Realize Pioli is precisely who Bill B wants us (or one of the other 30 teams) to hire because he sucks and has done nothing but put his beak up Bill B's butt... don't waste the 3rd overall on a needless switch to 3-4, don't trade value for a Pats backup QB who was a backup in college, don't whiff on Kansas State QB Josh Freeman, and don't let Jason Babin walk for nothing...
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At this point as long as Cassel is no longer part of the team I don't care.
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Old 12-27-2011, 11:17 AM   #233
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A year old article from a Houston writer, worth a read.

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He is as average a coach as the Texans' Gary Kubiak has been. Fisher might be the best average coach in NFL history. He is certainly the least accomplished, longest-tenured coach the league has seen.

His greatest accomplishment is that he has yet to be fired. Granted, that is a notable feat considering his boss fired six coaches in the previous stretch matching Fisher's tenure.

Those coaches had 10 winning years and 10 playoff seasons compared to Fisher's six winning campaigns and six postseason appearances. But let Fisher's media cronies tell you, and you'd think Fisher is a great coach. (A nice guy who hangs around the league long enough is sure to build a following.)

Fisher (141-115) is 15th in league history in games coached. Only two coaches ahead of him on that list have worse winning percentages: Dan Reeves and Weeb Ewbank.

Ewbank led two teams to three championships, including victories in the Greatest Game Ever Played and arguably the most important Super Bowl of all-time, the Jets' upset of the Colts in 1969. He also posted an .800 winning percentage in the playoffs. Advantage Ewbank.

Reeves coached three teams, taking two to four Super Bowls. He won seven division titles, and had nine 10-win seasons and a .550 playoff winning percentage. Advantage Reeves.

First clue: zero titles
Fisher has zero championships, one Super Bowl appearance, just four division titles and a sub-.500 playoff winning percentage. Both times Fisher had a team with the best record in the AFC and home-field advantage throughout the postseason, his squad was upset in its first playoff game.

If, as it used to be, championship contention was necessary to make money in the NFL, Bud Adams would have run Fisher off years ago.

Yet Houston fans and some media desire to hire Fisher? Great coach? Please. (Need I mention Fisher's relatively branchless coaching tree?)

It doesn't make sense
In NFL history, 57 men have coached at least 150 games. Fisher is one of only three to coach all of his games with one team and not win a championship. Coincidentally, each of the other two has a .622 winning percentage, compared to Fisher's .551.

Bud Grant, who coached 259 games (to Fisher's 256 at this point), posted 11 winning seasons, 11 division championships and made four Super Bowl appearances with the Vikings.

Andy Reid has six division titles in 11 seasons (and his team leads the NFC East), with a Super Bowl appearance, five NFC title games and just two losing seasons. Until last year, his Eagles, who host the Texans next Thursday, had not lost an opening playoff game, winning seven straight.

In a way, none of this matters as Fisher, one of the highest-paid coaches in the league, would have to throw away millions to leave the Titans before his contract expires after next year. And it is quite unlikely Adams would give him permission to immediately return to where his career started and take over the Texans next year.

Only a fool - let's go with a working premise that Texans owner Bob McNair is no fool - would fire Kubiak and give up draft picks to hire Fisher. It is also safe to assume McNair isn't afflicted with coach envy. If so, he would have fired Kubiak long ago.

There are five active coaches in the NFL who have won Super Bowls. Fisher isn't one of them. There are eight other Super Bowl-winning coaches who have left the NFL in the past five seasons.

Explain to me again why McNair would want to hire a non-title-winning coach with a 16-plus-year record of being slightly above average?

Average football coaches are a dime a dozen, well actually about $5 million a year each, but which is chump change to an NFL owner.
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By the way. While everyone's looking for ex coaches and coordinators, guess what Payton and McCarthy have in common? Both have tons of experience as qbs coaches. To me, that's a pretty good place to look. Obviously, that's not zorn. But there has to be someone else out there.
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Old 12-27-2011, 12:32 PM   #237
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The Chiefs are Jeff Fisher
Let's compare...

Jeff Fisher:
5 Playoff Wins as a Head Coach (since 1994), 1 Super Bowl Appearance
Developed a franchise QB in Steve McNair

The Chiefs:
Zero Playoff Wins since 1994, Zero Super Bowl Appearances
Zero history of developing a franchise QB since Len Dawson

I'd say advantage Jeff Fisher.
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Let's compare...

Jeff Fisher:
5 Playoff Wins as a Head Coach (since 1994), 1 Super Bowl Appearance
Developed a franchise QB in Steve McNair

The Chiefs:
Zero Playoff Wins since 1994, Zero Super Bowl Appearances
Zero history of developing a franchise QB since Len Dawson

I'd say advantage Jeff Fisher.
Not so sure I call McNair a franchise QB.

In 11 years, he only had 3 with a QB rating over 90.

Never threw for more than 24 TD's in a season.

Couldnt stay healthy

And threw quite a few picks (119 in 11 years).
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Let's compare...

Jeff Fisher:
5 Playoff Wins as a Head Coach (since 1994), 1 Super Bowl Appearance
Developed a franchise QB in Steve McNair

The Chiefs:
Zero Playoff Wins since 1994, Zero Super Bowl Appearances
Zero history of developing a franchise QB since Len Dawson

I'd say advantage Jeff Fisher.
McNair a franchise QB?



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