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Old 02-04-2012, 04:44 PM  
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Hall of Fame show (Roaf in, Shields out)

Anyone watching it? Got some Chiefs in the finals.
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Old 02-04-2012, 05:04 PM   #16
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Willie Roaf was the most entertaining left tackle I've ever seen. He made me laugh often as he pulled out left to destroy some unfortunate defenders.
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Old 02-04-2012, 05:04 PM   #17
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What the ****, Curtis Martin over Chris Carter? get the **** outta here.
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Warren Moon has gained some weight.

And the voters must really hate Cris Carter. He's the most mysterious oversight among the finalists.
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Old 02-04-2012, 05:06 PM   #19
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What the ****, Curtis Martin over Chris Carter? get the **** outta here.
In all seriousness, I half-wonder if Carter got caught selling drugs in a locker room or something. There's no public reason that he wouldn't be in by now. He should've been in a few years ago.
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Old 02-04-2012, 05:06 PM   #20
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Cortez Kennedy, thoughts?

I love it, but I grew up watching him every Sunday that the Seahawks weren't blacked out.
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Old 02-04-2012, 05:08 PM   #21
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Cortez Kennedy, thoughts?

I love it, but I grew up watching him every Sunday that the Seahawks weren't blacked out.
As good as he was, Charles Haley should be in there over him. Sometimes i wonder what the **** the Voters are thinking
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What i fail to understand is why Tim Brown isnt in. Yet Curtis Martin obviously got in for his Longevity. Tim Brown (yeah i know he's a Raider) was the Curtis Martin of WR's. Shit just boggles my mind.
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In all seriousness, I half-wonder if Carter got caught selling drugs in a locker room or something. There's no public reason that he wouldn't be in by now. He should've been in a few years ago.
I think it's just that creepy eyebrow. It's frightening.
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Old 02-04-2012, 05:18 PM   #24
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Cortez Kennedy, thoughts?

I love it, but I grew up watching him every Sunday that the Seahawks weren't blacked out.
Honestly, other than Roaf this class doesn't wow me.

Jack Butler. Before my time, and I've never heard of him.

Dawson was very good, but Shields went to almost twice as many pro bowls (12 vs. 7). I've got no problem with him getting in, but I think he got in over Shields only because it's Shields' first year.

Doleman was very good, and I guess I don't give him as much credit as I should. He averaged 10 sacks per year for 15 years. I think Kevin Greene was better, both statistically and on the field, but as a DE instead of an OLB Doleman may get more credit. Meh, I guess I'm okay with him getting in, but it's not like he scared me as a player.

Kennedy surprises me. I thought he was pretty darn good at his peak, but I never viewed him as dominating. I'm not sure I'd pick him.

Curtis Martin is one of those picks who annoys me. Elect him to the Hall of Never Injured. He was slightly above average for a long time. Big deal.

Roaf was dominant, and clearly the best LT in the league for some time. When you saw him shut down pass rushers, and particularly when you saw him pull on a sweep, you knew you were seeing something special. I would've said that even if he had been a Saint his whole career and not a Chief. This guy really belongs in the Hall of Fame.
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Chris Carter didn't get in because "he only catches touchdowns."

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Roaf is easily the shining star of this class, and honestly, I didn't think Tez would make it. Like, ever. I agree RM, pretty lacklusterless class with the exception of Roaf.
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I think it's just that creepy eyebrow. It's frightening.
Yeah, but that monobrow was the aerodynamic secret that helped him separate from defensive backs.
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It'd be odd to be elected to the Hall of Fame in 2012 when you retired in 1959. 53 years after retirement, you get the call. That would have to be exciting.

Now that I think about it, Jack Butler retired before the Hall of Fame was even created. It started in 1963.
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Curtis Martin is one of those picks who annoys me. Elect him to the Hall of Never Injured. He was slightly above average for a long time. Big deal.
Nah. Dude wasn't a flashy or sexy back but he's #4 on the all-time rushing list behind Smith, Payton, and Sanders. If he had 4 more years in him, he could have owned #1 over Smith; who set that mark in 14 years.

He also averages 103 yards from scrimmage per game. Averages.... over a 10 year career. Name two other HOF backs who did that. Faulk? Nope. Dickerson? Nope. Thurman Thomas? Nope.
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Nah. Dude wasn't a flashy or sexy back but he's #4 on the all-time rushing list behind Smith, Payton, and Sanders. If he had 4 more years in him, he could have owned #1 over Smith; who set that mark in 14 years.

He also averages 103 yards from scrimmage per game. Averages.... over a 10 year career. Name two other HOF backs who did that. Faulk? Nope. Dickerson? Nope. Thurman Thomas? Nope.
I agree. Curtis Martin was one of those guys that always dependable.
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