Chiefs Trent Richardson update - Page 5

saphojunkie · 12:56 PM

Didn't see this anywhere, and I couldn't find the Trent Richardson thread. Sorry I'm even a marginally capable detective.

Trent Richardson had surgery on his knee, and won't participate in the combine. However, Chris Mortenson now reporting that he won't even participate in the Alabama pro day.

Those who want him to fall to us at 11 will likely get your wish. They are saying he could fall as low as #21.

The new question is...do you take a risk on him in the top 15?

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RB Trent Richardson wont be working out in Bama Pro Day March 7, either. Sometime in March after Scope removed small loose particle in knee

**Dave Lane** · 02-23-2012, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Because Jamaal Charles is the only half back we have under contract and he is returning from a torn acl.

Even when healthy, he isn't built to be a 300 carry type back and we usually run the ball around 500 times per year.

This. We need a complement to Charles in the worst possible way. **** RT in the 1st.

saphojunkie · 02-23-2012, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

Not at all. There are many more examples of productive RB's taken in Round 3 than there are successful QB's drafted in Round 6.

Top ten rushers from this year, and round they were drafted:

1 Maurice Jones-Drew - 2nd
2 Arian Foster - undreafted
3 Fred Jackson - undrafted (2 years in semi-pro league)
4 Darren McFadden - 1st
5 LeSean McCoy - 2nd
6 Ray Rice - 2nd
7 Michael Turner - 5th
8 Matt Forte - 2nd
9 Adrian Peterson - 1st
10 Marshawn Lynch - 1st

So, that's three out of the top 10 RB this year that were drafted in the 1st round (all in the top 12, I might add). Two of them, McFadden and AP, ended up on IR.

Micjones · 02-23-2012, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Who's the best RT in the league?

Jake Long or Joe Thomas.

I know where you're going with that though.
RB is a skill position. Much more visible.

Micjones · 02-23-2012, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie

Top ten rushers from this year, and round they were drafted:

1 Maurice Jones-Drew - 2nd
2 Arian Foster - undreafted
3 Fred Jackson - undrafted (2 years in semi-pro league)
4 Darren McFadden - 1st
5 LeSean McCoy - 2nd
6 Ray Rice - 2nd
7 Michael Turner - 5th
8 Matt Forte - 2nd
9 Adrian Peterson - 1st
10 Marshawn Lynch - 1st

So, that's three out of the top 10 RB this year that were drafted in the 1st round (all in the top 12, I might add). Two of them, McFadden and AP, ended up on IR.

14 RB's were 1,000-yard rushers last year.
21 RB's in the NFL had 920 or more yards.
TWENTY-ONE. In a "pass happy" league.

O.city · 02-23-2012, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

Jake Long or Joe Thomas.

I know where you're going with that though.
RB is a skill position. Much more visible.

RT not LT.

Okie_Apparition · 02-23-2012, 05:31 PM

Richardson would only get a 4 year contract IRC
that makes taking an RB high easier than 5 years

Micjones · 02-23-2012, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

RT not LT.

My bad. I was in a rush to make my point about visibility.

In that case... Stinchcomb or Woody?
The point still stands.

saphojunkie · 02-23-2012, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Maybe.

But how many starting Rt's in the league were first round picks?

Hmm...

I'm trying to think...Otah, Oher, Anthony Davis (49ers)...there's three of the best OL in the league right there. Ducasse was 2nd round, right?

All I know is, having John Tait on the right side with Shields, Roaf, and Waters made us unstoppable.

Let's not also forget that Branden Albert is going into the last year of his contract. We might be drafting his replacement.

O.city · 02-23-2012, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie

Hmm...

I'm trying to think...Otah, Oher, Anthony Davis (49ers)...there's three of the best OL in the league right there. Ducasse was 2nd round, right?

All I know is, having John Tait on the right side with Shields, Roaf, and Waters made us unstoppable.

Let's not also forget that Branden Albert is going into the last year of his contract. We might be drafting his replacement.

The Albert thing is valid.

But pretty much every one of those guys you just stated were drafted to eventually replace someone at LT.

If we are drafting a guy to stay at RT for years, there is no reason to draft him in the first round.

We could have Richardson, Fleener, and Massie. In my opinion thats better than Reiff, Fleener, and Polk.

ToxSocks · 02-23-2012, 05:58 PM

Alabama RB Trent Richardson earned a passing medical grade at the Combine following a Feb. 3 knee scope.
Dr. James Andrews called the procedure "about as minor and routine as you can get." Richardson's agent said the top running back prospect would have been playing within 10-to-14 days had the scope been done during the season. Richardson had a small tear in the anterior horn of the lateral meniscus, but there was no damage to the cartilage. Although he won't participate in combine drills, Richardson will hold his Pro Day on March 27

Micjones · 02-23-2012, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

Alabama RB Trent Richardson earned a passing medical grade at the Combine following a Feb. 3 knee scope.
Dr. James Andrews called the procedure "about as minor and routine as you can get." Richardson's agent said the top running back prospect would have been playing within 10-to-14 days had the scope been done during the season. Richardson had a small tear in the anterior horn of the lateral meniscus, but there was no damage to the cartilage. Although he won't participate in combine drills, Richardson will hold his Pro Day on March 27

Great. I still wouldn't draft him at 11/12.

**ChiefGator** · 02-23-2012, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Okie_Apparition

Richardson would only get a 4 year contract IRC
that makes taking an RB high easier than 5 years

Huh? What makes it easier is that rookie contracts at the top of the draft will be much less than in previous years.

Okie_Apparition · 02-23-2012, 06:56 PM

Caked shit on the side of a stool in a truckstop has more common sense than you, you ****ing worthless pile of mayfly spit

**BossChief** · 02-24-2012, 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock

A RB usually doesn't bounce right back from an ACL.

And GoChiefs bet me a whole year sig AND Avatar that Charles will have 300 combined rushes and catches next year.

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Here is why Trent Richardson is worth our pick.

He has the size and strength to excel in power, a gap runs but he isn't even close to a one trick pony.

He is the type of back defenses need to prepare for all types of runs against him.

He has great excelleration for his size and that is something you simply cannot practice for unless you have a similar talent and there aren't many guys with his skill set.

He has the power to go right up the gut.

The speed to get the corner.

The vision to see cutback lanes and the patience and change of direction ability to exploit them.

He runs with a power base and gets low to absorb contact while punishing defenders...almost never chooses to go OOB instead of choosing to deal a blow to a defender...that sets the tone of the game from the outset.

He is an excellent receiver out of the backfield and has shown elite ability to pick up the blitz in pass protection.

Then you can dig a little deeper and find that he is humble, hard working (great locker room/weight room presense) and a really good teammate.

This isn't just any old running back and should be graded on a different scale.

Those that say "I wouldn't draft a running back in the first round" are guys just like me every other year....I am usually totally against it.

This kid is different, though.

Total package backs like him are extremely rare.

If I were him, I wouldn't work out at the combine at all unless I felt I could run a 4.3 flat or something...which he wouldn't do.

All you need to do is throw in some tape of the kid from a handful of games to see he is special and nothing he would do at the combine would change that.

If he is there at our pick, we really can't afford to pass on him.

htismaqe · 02-24-2012, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

And GoChiefs bet me a whole year sig AND Avatar that Charles will have 300 combined rushes and catches next year.

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Here is why Trent Richardson is worth our pick.

He has the size and strength to excel in power, a gap runs but he isn't even close to a one trick pony.

He is the type of back defenses need to prepare for all types of runs against him.

He has great excelleration for his size and that is something you simply cannot practice for unless you have a similar talent and there aren't many guys with his skill set.

He has the power to go right up the gut.

The speed to get the corner.

The vision to see cutback lanes and the patience and change of direction ability to exploit them.

He runs with a power base and gets low to absorb contact while punishing defenders...almost never chooses to go OOB instead of choosing to deal a blow to a defender...that sets the tone of the game from the outset.

He is an excellent receiver out of the backfield and has shown elite ability to pick up the blitz in pass protection.

Then you can dig a little deeper and find that he is humble, hard working (great locker room/weight room presense) and a really good teammate.

This isn't just any old running back and should be graded on a different scale.

Those that say "I wouldn't draft a running back in the first round" are guys just like me every other year....I am usually totally against it.

This kid is different, though.

Total package backs like him are extremely rare.

If I were him, I wouldn't work out at the combine at all unless I felt I could run a 4.3 flat or something...which he wouldn't do.

All you need to do is throw in some tape of the kid from a handful of games to see he is special and nothing he would do at the combine would change that.

If he is there at our pick, we really can't afford to pass on him.

So we're going to compliment a RB that potentially won't be 100% with a RB who potentially won't be 100%?

Let's throw out all of the other arguments that have been had about Richardson the last few weeks.

You NEVER NEVER NEVER draft a guy in the top 15 that is unable to workout AT ALL prior to the draft.

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