NFL Draft Rumor: Redskins prepared to offer at least 4 picks for the #2 pick. - Page 6

**The Franchise** · 02-26-2012, 11:38 AM

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Teams sources tell NBC Philadelphia's Howard Eskin the Redskins are prepared to offer the Rams their top three 2012 picks and "at least" their 2013 first-round pick to move up to draft Baylor QB Robert Griffin III.

If true, it would be a positively Ricky Williams-ian haul for the Rams, who saw the value of their No. 2 pick increase even further on Sunday when Griffin was unofficially timed at a blazing 4.38 in the 40 at the Combine. Eskin's report comes two days after SI.com's Tony Pauline reported the Rams have engaged in "exploratory talks" with the Redskins about a swap. Source: Howard Eskin on Twitter

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 02-26-2012, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by the_spatula

**** IT

They can have him

Yep. The only people ready to trade 3-5 years worth of picks for him are ****ing morons.

Okie_Apparition · 02-26-2012, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda

Why? We are only giving up picks 2-7. Outside of picks 2 and 3 how many times do picks from 4-7 pan out? There is a lower rate of success in those picks. Are they not worth a franchise QB? I think too much value is placed on worthless picks than what could be had with those picks.

THen why would the Rams want them

Mr. Laz · 02-26-2012, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

Yeah tag Carr and let Bowe walk. That's ****ing stupid.

people always bitch about how the QB position is so important but they wet themselves as soon as it comes time to pay for it.

There are plenty of WR's out on the market ... we can sign one.

If letting Bowe walk and tag/trade Carr means we get RGIII then i would think you should be happy about it.

who knows ... Bowe's price might drop once he gets out there on the market anyway.

tredadda · 02-26-2012, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Okie_Apparition

THen why would the Rams want them

They have far, far more holes to fill than us.

Okie_Apparition · 02-26-2012, 04:04 PM

How can they have more holes & so little cap space
Is Bradford & Long bleeding them dry

O.city · 02-26-2012, 04:05 PM

They have basically been drafting in the top 5 for the last what 6 years?

**wazu** · 02-26-2012, 04:06 PM

We should call the Redskins and offer them a franchise QB for a lot less.

tredadda · 02-26-2012, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Okie_Apparition

How can they have more holes & so little cap space
Is Bradford & Long bleeding them dry

Have you seen Bradford's contract?

O.city · 02-26-2012, 04:08 PM

Some of these qb teams are gonna fill that spot with a free agent. We just have to wait and see.

I would love to see the Browns sign Flynn, the Skins sign Manning, and the Dolphins sign Orton but one of those teams is gonna just sit tight and draft RGIII.

This is a shitty year for the Chiefs to need a qb when it comes to the draft. Just pick up Manning, tag Bowe, and have a great draft.

Mr. Laz · 02-26-2012, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Just pick up Manning, tag/trade Carr,Sign a WR in FA and have a great draft.

FYP

bricks · 02-26-2012, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda

Why? We are only giving up picks 2-7. Outside of picks 2 and 3 how many times do picks from 4-7 pan out? There is a lower rate of success in those picks. Are they not worth a franchise QB? I think too much value is placed on worthless picks than what could be had with those picks.

True.

But then there could also be a flipside to that. Sometimes, teams end up having good drafts and can possibly score on 3 or 4 players.

What if that happens?

It comes down to this, would you rather see a whole draft pissed down the drain all for the sake of sacrificing it for one player?

Or, would you rather see them have a good draft, address maybe 3 or 4 positions and still have the possibility to address the QB in FA.

Hypothetically, lets say, they score on 3 or 4 players in this years draft that can contribute to the teams future.And at the same time, the Chiefs can address the QB position in FA w/ Manning lets say. I'd rather take that.

If they trade up, they'd be at risk of possibly losing out on 4 key players who can contribute to building your team. And all for what? for the price of one?

Sorry, I just think its too risky.

Valiant · 02-26-2012, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by bricks

I understand your point. And I want a QB just as bad as you do.

But in no way am I fan of them trading the whole entire draft for just one player who doesn't assure anything. That's just insane. I still think the Chiefs can address the QB position someway, somehow. Whether its through Manning, Tannehill, in the 2nd round, or possibly next years first rounder?

I understand the importance of having a QB, but I think the rest of the team needs and the draft are just as equally important. If trading up for one player hinders their chances of improving the rest of the team for the future, then the risk is far too much of a burden. I'd rather see them improve the rest of the team while addressing the QB position at the same time.

The consequences of risky moves like these are way too hard to bear and can possibly set the franchise back? Thats why Im not inclined to seeing them making these type of moves. I'd rather see them take a chance on Manning instead. Yeah he is risk too. But the risk is far less severe. If he works out, great. If he doesn't, then at least they didn't sacrifice their whole future?

I more of a fan of seeing them taking a smart approach. Or, a more realistic approach...(i.e, sign Manning, and draft a QB either in the 1st or 2nd)...go from there and then build your team on top. Thats all Im saying.

Can you set the Chiefs back any further?? They have not done shit for a generation almost.. Personally at the rate we are going we will finally get a decent QB but wont have shit around him cause they are all too old..

Okie_Apparition · 02-26-2012, 04:11 PM

Give us your #2 & your bloated Haynesworth type contracts
will give you the #11 & cap freedom!!!!!!!!!!!
Then draft Blackmon

O.city · 02-26-2012, 04:14 PM

Who are all these free agent wr's you are speaking of Laz? I'm too lazy too look.

Mr. Laz · 02-26-2012, 04:16 PM

2012 NFL Free Agent Receivers
By: Roshan Bhagat

Vincent Jackson (SD) - Partially due to his actions and injuries in the past, the Chargers have been reluctant to sign Vincent Jackson to a long-term extension. However, after a third 1000-yard season with the Chargers, GM AJ Smith and Head Coach Norv Turner have expressed interest in keeping Jackson in San Diego for the long haul. If the Chargers don't have him locked up prior to the start of free agency, he may very easily leave on a tempting offer elsewhere.

Wes Welker (NE) - Welker has averaged 111 receptions and 1221 yards over the last 5 seasons, since joining New England. It's safe to call Welker the best slot receiver in the league and one of the most valuable pieces to the Patriots' offense. During Super Bowl week he brushed off questions regarding his impending free agency, but it's a foregone conclusion that he'll remain in Foxborough.

Reggie Wayne (IND) - After missing the 1000-yard mark for the first time since 2003, Wayne finds himself a free agent. All of the talk out of Indy has been on Peyton Manning and his costly option The Colts have been an organization takes care of their own over the last decade, but for a team expected to enter rebuilding, it'll be interesting to see if that philosophy changes for in the transition. Many expect Wayne to be playing elsewhere next season.

DeSean Jackson (PHI) - Jackson is a great weapon for the Eagles offense that relies upon big plays. Unfortunately, Jackson's ego and sense of self-worth appears to have created a rift in negotiations thus far. Jackson will probably want to be paid as a top wide receiver, which he may not get from the organization after some his comments and actions of several months ago. To be fair, his play doesn't warrant it either.

Dwayne Bowe (KC) - One subpar season aside, Dwayne Bowe has emerged into the number one receiver the offense needs. He's a big body and a good route runner with a large catching radius. His most impressive attribute is his body of work around the goal line. He's a complete mismatch with the fade, slant, and back shoulder passes and has shown the propensity to make the acrobatic catches on numerous occasions. If he can't be re-signed prior to free agency, he's probably the frontrunner ahead of Brandon Carr for the franchise tag.

Marques Colston (NO) - When healthy, Colston is a match-up nightmare for any corner. He's an incredibly physical, sure-handed receiver and a polished route runner. When he's available, he brings another dimension to the Saints offense that none of their other talented weapons possess. Though Brees has proven capable of running the offense without him, they're even more dangerous with him. He'll most likely remain with the Saints.

Steve Johnson (BUF) - Still working on his meager rookie salary, Johnson figures to be a big part of the Bills' long term plans. On a team with few superstars, the Bills can afford to lock up Johnson long term and maintain an effective passing attack. Though the sides don't appear to have begun extension talks, the Bills also have the option of using the franchise tag on him if they can't reach a deal before free agency.

Brandon Lloyd (STL) - Lloyd quickly established himself as the Rams' top receiver after a trade landed him in St. Louis midway through the year. His explosive downfield ability and large catching radius make him a legitimate target to help Sam Bradford. The Rams will make a strong play to retain him and Lloyd has expressed interest in playing for coach Jeff Fisher.

Robert Meachem (NO) - Meachem is one of the younger receivers that could be a nice pick-up for an offense with a larger workload to offer. He's a good downfield threat and has nice instincts in the red zone. For a team with Drew Brees, Marques Colston, and Carl Nicks as free agents, the organization has some work to do to bring back all of their key guys.

Mario Manningham (NYG) - With Manningham behind breakout star Victor Cruz and Hakeem Nicks, the Giants have found a nice threesome. Though the Giants have done a great job of developing players at the position, they would like to see some continuity for Manning. Unfortunately for them, other teams may look to give Manningham a promotion into the starting lineup and a bigger contract that goes along with it.

Laurent Robinson (DAL) - After spending some time in Atlanta, St. Louis, and San Diego, it didn't take Robinson a lot of time to find chemistry with Tony Romo in Dallas in his fifth year as a pro. He exploded on the scene replacing and playing behind Dez Bryant and Miles Austin in the lineup at various points throughout the season, accumulating 858 yards and 11 touchdowns in 14 games. Though Robinson has reaffirmed that he wants to remain in Dallas, it may be hard for the Cowboys to pay him as a third receiver if he receives serious attention on the open market.

Mike Wallace (PIT) - Restricted - No receiver in the league forces safeties back like Wallace. His deep speed is second to none on the perimeter and he capitalizes on it with the ability to run those vertical routes proficiently. He's improving in other areas of his game and is an extremely valuable piece to the Steelers' offense. Keep in mind the highest Restricted tender would only net the Steelers a first round pick, which Wallace is certainly worth.

The Rest:
Early Doucet (ARZ)
Harry Douglas (ATL)
Eric Weems (ATL)
Ruvell Martin (BUF)
Roscoe Parrish (BUF)
Legedu Naanee (CAR)
Roy Williams (CHI)
Andre Caldwell (CIN)
Jerome Simpson (CIN)
Eddie Royal (DEN)
Rashied Davis (DET)
Maurice Stovall (DET)
Braylon Edwards (FA)
Bryant Johnson (HOU)
Pierre Garcon (IND)
Anthony Gonzalez (IND)
Jerheme Urban (KC)
Devin Aromashodu (MIN)
Bernard Berrian (MIN)
Greg Camarillo (MIN)
Deion Branch (NE)
Matt Slater (NE)
Courtney Roby (NO)
Domenik Hixon (NYG)
Devin Thomas (NYG)
Plaxico Burress (NYJ)
TJ Houshmandzadeh (OAK)
Derek Hagan (OAK)
Chaz Schilens (OAK)
Steve Smith (PHI)
Jerricho Cotchery (PIT)
Patrick Crayton (SD)
Ted Ginn (SF)
Josh Morgan (SF)
Mark Clayton (STL)
Mike Sims-Walker (STL)
Micheal Spurlock (TB)
Donnie Avery (TEN)
Kevin Curtis (TEN)
Lavelle Hawkins (TEN)
David Anderson (WAS)
Donte' Stallworth (WAS)
Stephen Williams (ARZ) - Exclusive Rights
Jordan Norwood (CLE) - Exclusive Rights
Jesse Holley (DAL) - Exclusive Rights
Kevin Ogletree (DAL) - Restricted
Stefan Logan (DET) - Restricted
Matt Willis (DEN) - Restricted
Danny Amendola (STL) - Restricted
Dominique Curry (STL) - Exclusive Rights
Preston Parker (TB) - Exclusive Rights

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Mr. Laz Don't Tease Me Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: KS Casino cash: $11047037	2012 NFL Free Agent Receivers By: Roshan Bhagat Vincent Jackson (SD) - Partially due to his actions and injuries in the past, the Chargers have been reluctant to sign Vincent Jackson to a long-term extension. However, after a third 1000-yard season with the Chargers, GM AJ Smith and Head Coach Norv Turner have expressed interest in keeping Jackson in San Diego for the long haul. If the Chargers don't have him locked up prior to the start of free agency, he may very easily leave on a tempting offer elsewhere. Wes Welker (NE) - Welker has averaged 111 receptions and 1221 yards over the last 5 seasons, since joining New England. It's safe to call Welker the best slot receiver in the league and one of the most valuable pieces to the Patriots' offense. During Super Bowl week he brushed off questions regarding his impending free agency, but it's a foregone conclusion that he'll remain in Foxborough. Reggie Wayne (IND) - After missing the 1000-yard mark for the first time since 2003, Wayne finds himself a free agent. All of the talk out of Indy has been on Peyton Manning and his costly option The Colts have been an organization takes care of their own over the last decade, but for a team expected to enter rebuilding, it'll be interesting to see if that philosophy changes for in the transition. Many expect Wayne to be playing elsewhere next season. DeSean Jackson (PHI) - Jackson is a great weapon for the Eagles offense that relies upon big plays. Unfortunately, Jackson's ego and sense of self-worth appears to have created a rift in negotiations thus far. Jackson will probably want to be paid as a top wide receiver, which he may not get from the organization after some his comments and actions of several months ago. To be fair, his play doesn't warrant it either. Dwayne Bowe (KC) - One subpar season aside, Dwayne Bowe has emerged into the number one receiver the offense needs. He's a big body and a good route runner with a large catching radius. His most impressive attribute is his body of work around the goal line. He's a complete mismatch with the fade, slant, and back shoulder passes and has shown the propensity to make the acrobatic catches on numerous occasions. If he can't be re-signed prior to free agency, he's probably the frontrunner ahead of Brandon Carr for the franchise tag. Marques Colston (NO) - When healthy, Colston is a match-up nightmare for any corner. He's an incredibly physical, sure-handed receiver and a polished route runner. When he's available, he brings another dimension to the Saints offense that none of their other talented weapons possess. Though Brees has proven capable of running the offense without him, they're even more dangerous with him. He'll most likely remain with the Saints. Steve Johnson (BUF) - Still working on his meager rookie salary, Johnson figures to be a big part of the Bills' long term plans. On a team with few superstars, the Bills can afford to lock up Johnson long term and maintain an effective passing attack. Though the sides don't appear to have begun extension talks, the Bills also have the option of using the franchise tag on him if they can't reach a deal before free agency. Brandon Lloyd (STL) - Lloyd quickly established himself as the Rams' top receiver after a trade landed him in St. Louis midway through the year. His explosive downfield ability and large catching radius make him a legitimate target to help Sam Bradford. The Rams will make a strong play to retain him and Lloyd has expressed interest in playing for coach Jeff Fisher. Robert Meachem (NO) - Meachem is one of the younger receivers that could be a nice pick-up for an offense with a larger workload to offer. He's a good downfield threat and has nice instincts in the red zone. For a team with Drew Brees, Marques Colston, and Carl Nicks as free agents, the organization has some work to do to bring back all of their key guys. Mario Manningham (NYG) - With Manningham behind breakout star Victor Cruz and Hakeem Nicks, the Giants have found a nice threesome. Though the Giants have done a great job of developing players at the position, they would like to see some continuity for Manning. Unfortunately for them, other teams may look to give Manningham a promotion into the starting lineup and a bigger contract that goes along with it. Laurent Robinson (DAL) - After spending some time in Atlanta, St. Louis, and San Diego, it didn't take Robinson a lot of time to find chemistry with Tony Romo in Dallas in his fifth year as a pro. He exploded on the scene replacing and playing behind Dez Bryant and Miles Austin in the lineup at various points throughout the season, accumulating 858 yards and 11 touchdowns in 14 games. Though Robinson has reaffirmed that he wants to remain in Dallas, it may be hard for the Cowboys to pay him as a third receiver if he receives serious attention on the open market. Mike Wallace (PIT) - Restricted - No receiver in the league forces safeties back like Wallace. His deep speed is second to none on the perimeter and he capitalizes on it with the ability to run those vertical routes proficiently. He's improving in other areas of his game and is an extremely valuable piece to the Steelers' offense. Keep in mind the highest Restricted tender would only net the Steelers a first round pick, which Wallace is certainly worth. The Rest: Early Doucet (ARZ) Harry Douglas (ATL) Eric Weems (ATL) Ruvell Martin (BUF) Roscoe Parrish (BUF) Legedu Naanee (CAR) Roy Williams (CHI) Andre Caldwell (CIN) Jerome Simpson (CIN) Eddie Royal (DEN) Rashied Davis (DET) Maurice Stovall (DET) Braylon Edwards (FA) Bryant Johnson (HOU) Pierre Garcon (IND) Anthony Gonzalez (IND) Jerheme Urban (KC) Devin Aromashodu (MIN) Bernard Berrian (MIN) Greg Camarillo (MIN) Deion Branch (NE) Matt Slater (NE) Courtney Roby (NO) Domenik Hixon (NYG) Devin Thomas (NYG) Plaxico Burress (NYJ) TJ Houshmandzadeh (OAK) Derek Hagan (OAK) Chaz Schilens (OAK) Steve Smith (PHI) Jerricho Cotchery (PIT) Patrick Crayton (SD) Ted Ginn (SF) Josh Morgan (SF) Mark Clayton (STL) Mike Sims-Walker (STL) Micheal Spurlock (TB) Donnie Avery (TEN) Kevin Curtis (TEN) Lavelle Hawkins (TEN) David Anderson (WAS) Donte' Stallworth (WAS) Stephen Williams (ARZ) - Exclusive Rights Jordan Norwood (CLE) - Exclusive Rights Jesse Holley (DAL) - Exclusive Rights Kevin Ogletree (DAL) - Restricted Stefan Logan (DET) - Restricted Matt Willis (DEN) - Restricted Danny Amendola (STL) - Restricted Dominique Curry (STL) - Exclusive Rights Preston Parker (TB) - Exclusive Rights __________________
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