KK wrong about success of ASG

[KingPriest2]

Remember when we were awarded the ASG and KK said that KC will be a embarrassment? Then last summer a article in SI had a player talking about coming here and some players weren't sure. KK took off with that as ammo saying we shouldn't host the game?

Now he s saying that he expected it

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by Guru

a WHOLE 50,000? What percentage of them do you really think are going to go to a ball game at the end of the day.

EDIT

Every city is different. What works in one does not always work in another. More than a majority of the fanbase don't like this idea based on what I have heard and read over the past few years of it being discussed.

Tend to disagree. I view a downtown ballpark in KC as a foregone conclusion in many respects, since the K will not be renovated yet again. Next time around, it's new stadium time, which will likely be in 10-15 years.

Where will it go? Out by the Legends? Perhaps. Or downtown.

[007]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Um, if 50,000 people can come downtown and park for work, 30,000 can come downtown and park for a game.

at $25 a pop I'm sure. Unless you don't mind walking 10 or more blocks.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Guru

at $25 a pop I'm sure. Unless you don't mind walking 10 or more blocks.

Who pays $25 to park downtown? It's $3 to park at P&L. Event parking is $10 to $15.

[007]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Who pays $25 to park downtown? It's $3 to park at P&L. Event parking is $10 to $15.

I would be shocked if event parking for a ballgame would be less than $15-20 withing 4 blocks of the stadium. It's all about the prime real estate and the Royals would have no control of what places want to charge.

They won't give up the parking cash cow they have right now.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Guru

I would be shocked if event parking for a ballgame would be less than $15-20 withing 4 blocks of the stadium. It's all about the prime real estate and the Royals would have no control of what places want to charge.

They won't give up the parking cash cow they have right now.

Why would baseball parking magically cost more than, say, Big XII tournament parking or a Garth Brooks concert parking?

[kysirsoze]

Originally Posted by Guru

at $25 a pop I'm sure. Unless you don't mind walking 10 or more blocks.

You don't pay $25 to park one block from the Staples center for Lakers games. No way it's that high for a Royals game.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Um, if 50,000 people can come downtown and park for work, 30,000 can come downtown and park for a game.

That is one statistic I didn't know. DowntownKC says there is 49,000 parking spots in the Central Business district.

The one problem I see would be day games during the week and there is quite of few of those early on in the season.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

That is one statistic I didn't know. DowntownKC says there is 49,000 parking spots in the Central Business district.

The one problem I see would be day games during the week and there is quite of few of those early on in the season.

There would be challenges, but it wouldn't be that bad. Park and rides would be created where buses would shuttle people from lots a few miles away, some new garages would have to be built, and all that stuff, but a downtown overflowing with people 15 days a year is a great problem to have. There really is nothing quite like the atmosphere of a day game in a lively urban environment.

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

That's way better than coming into town, staying at the Hotel Phillips, seeing a game at a downtown stadium, going to Power and Light, seeing a concert at Sprint Center, having a meal at the Plaza, checking out an indie art gallery in the crossroads, having a picnic at Loose Park, etc. all within a $15 cab ride.

Hey guys let's take a day and go to the Royals game and spend the night there.

Sweet sounds cool. How much?

Well the game will be about $40 a ticket for each of us. Then we will want to eat at a restaurant nearby and get some drinks so that's about another $25 for each of us. Oh and parking will be about $15. But hey we can just leave our car in the lot and pick up a cab for $15 to go our restaurant on the plaza. Oh and once in the stadium you will want to buy a couple drinks and maybe some nachos so everyone bring an extra $20 to the game.

Well I guess that's not too bad. What about the hotel?

Well that's also right in the area. We can get the Hotel Phillips for just $150 for that night. So what do you say guys? Just around $160 a person let's do it.

You serious, Clark? I just want a few drinks and a Royals game. GTFO.

[007]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

Hey guys let's take a day and go to the Royals game and spend the night there.

Sweet sounds cool. How much?

Well the game will be about $40 a ticket for each of us. Then we will want to eat at a restaurant nearby and get some drinks so that's about another $25 for each of us. Oh and parking will be about $15. But hey we can just leave our car in the lot and pick up a cab for $15 to go our restaurant on the plaza. Oh and once in the stadium you will want to buy a couple drinks and maybe some nachos so everyone bring an extra $20 to the game.

Well I guess that's not too bad. What about the hotel?

Well that's also right in the area. We can get the Hotel Phillips for just $150 for that night. So what do you say guys? Just around $160 a person let's do it.

You serious, Clark? I just want a few drinks and a Royals game. GTFO.

And that is pretty much Saul's entire argument.

Oh and FYI, $20 won't cover a couple drinks and nachos. heh

[tk13]

Amazing that this stuff still carries on like it does after the renovations. I think he's just trolling you guys. I love KC, but it's not Chicago, and it probably will never be Chicago in our lifetime. Just a terrible comparison. Major differences in traffic, public transportation, etc. The size difference in the urban area is significant.

I'm not opposed to a downtown stadium really, but I think it would be sad to see the K torn down. It's not even about the location... it's that the K truly one of the most beautiful sports stadiums in America. At least I think so. I've been to several more "modern" parks that are certainly good, but not quite the same. Same for Arrowhead... it's not quite as beautiful, but it's structure allows for a homefield advantage you just can't get in a lot of new stadiums. I don't know why putting it downtown and attracting the element that just wants to be seen is so exciting. That's one of the great things about KC. But I go to sporting events because I actually want to go to a sporting event. It'll be interesting to see what happens next time the stadium talk rolls around. The K has actually become a historic building in baseball terms... it's the 6th oldest stadium in the league. Considering the A's want to move, it might soon be the 5th oldest, alongside Fenway, Wrigley, Dodger Stadium and Angels Stadium... with really no other stadium even close. That's kind of cool.

[007]

Originally Posted by tk13

Amazing that this stuff still carries on like it does after the renovations. I think he's just trolling you guys. I love KC, but it's not Chicago, and it probably will never be Chicago in our lifetime. Just a terrible comparison. Major differences in traffic, public transportation, etc. The size difference in the urban area is significant.

I'm not opposed to a downtown stadium really, but I think it would be sad to see the K torn down. It's not even about the location... it's that the K truly one of the most beautiful sports stadiums in America. At least I think so. I've been to several more "modern" parks that are certainly good, but not quite the same. Same for Arrowhead... it's not quite as beautiful, but it's structure allows for a homefield advantage you just can't get in a lot of new stadiums. I don't know why putting it downtown and attracting the element that just wants to be seen is so exciting. That's one of the great things about KC. But I go to sporting events because I actually want to go to a sporting event. It'll be interesting to see what happens next time the stadium talk rolls around. The K has actually become a historic building in baseball terms... it's the 6th oldest stadium in the league. Considering the A's want to move, it might soon be the 5th oldest, alongside Fenway, Wrigley, Dodger Stadium and Angels Stadium... with really no other stadium even close. That's kind of cool.

nah, we should just tear it down.

[Raiderhater]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

Hey guys let's take a day and go to the Royals game and spend the night there.

Sweet sounds cool. How much?

Well the game will be about $40 a ticket for each of us. Then we will want to eat at a restaurant nearby and get some drinks so that's about another $25 for each of us. Oh and parking will be about $15. But hey we can just leave our car in the lot and pick up a cab for $15 to go our restaurant on the plaza. Oh and once in the stadium you will want to buy a couple drinks and maybe some nachos so everyone bring an extra $20 to the game.

Well I guess that's not too bad. What about the hotel?

Well that's also right in the area. We can get the Hotel Phillips for just $150 for that night. So what do you say guys? Just around $160 a person let's do it.

You serious, Clark? I just want a few drinks and a Royals game. GTFO.

It is quite obvious Saul wants to attract a different type of "fan" to the games. The average every day fan who usually is working on some kind of budget needs to be weeded out. Like pro sports isn't doing enough of that on their own.....

[007]

Originally Posted by Raiderhader

It is quite obvious Saul wants to attract a different type of "fan" to the games. The average every day fan who usually is working on some kind of budget needs to be weeded out. Like pro sports isn't doing enough of that on their own.....

Hence why they need to encase the club level of Arrowhead in tinted glass so it isn't as embarrassing.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

Hey guys let's take a day and go to the Royals game and spend the night there.

Sweet sounds cool. How much?

Well the game will be about $40 a ticket for each of us. Then we will want to eat at a restaurant nearby and get some drinks so that's about another $25 for each of us. Oh and parking will be about $15. But hey we can just leave our car in the lot and pick up a cab for $15 to go our restaurant on the plaza. Oh and once in the stadium you will want to buy a couple drinks and maybe some nachos so everyone bring an extra $20 to the game.

Well I guess that's not too bad. What about the hotel?

Well that's also right in the area. We can get the Hotel Phillips for just $150 for that night. So what do you say guys? Just around $160 a person let's do it.

You serious, Clark? I just want a few drinks and a Royals game. GTFO.

Milk was talking about people coming from out of town to see a Royals game. You don't have to do all of those things. The Drury Inn and Denny's will still be there if you'd rather drive 100 miles for a roach motel and a grand slam breakfast.

The people of Kansas City have spoken, and they want this.