Chiefs camp report: Poe has ‘a ways to go’

[Hammock Parties]

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Woe is Poe

Almost from the start of training camp, coach Romeo Crennel has tried to downplay expectations for rookie nose tackle Dontari Poe, the Chiefs first-round draft pick. Crennel put that in his strongest terms yet on Wednesday when asked what Poe needs to improve on in order to get more playing time.

“A lot,” Crennel said. “He needs to work on technique, he needs to work on understanding the system, he needs to get the calls correct all the time. He’s got a ways to go.”

Anthony Toribio, who spent all of last season on the practice squad, remains as the starting nose tackle ahead of Poe on the depth chart. Poe enters the lineup on obvious passing downs when the Chiefs use their nickel defense.

Poe acknowledged the difficulty of adjusting to the NFL game.

“It’s all different,” he said. “The technique of it, there’s nothing the same about the college level. The only thing the same is that it’s football. As far as the speed level and the strength and all that, you’ve got to learn it all over again.

“I still have a ways to go but I’m getting better every day. I’m just trying to do what I can, trying to do everything they teach me.”

Tackling issues

To prevent injuries, the Chiefs have not done tackling drills during training camp. That could lead to some tackling problems in Friday night’s game.

“It’s not excused,” Crennel said. “On defense your job is to tackle, so tackle. Even though we don’t tackle in practice, your job is to tackle, so you tackle.”

Crennel said he wouldn’t work on tackling next week when camp resumes even if the Chiefs struggle in that area against Arizona.

“If I tackle Jamaal Charles, and he gets hurt, then you’re going to blame me for tackling,” Crennel said. “So, I’m going to use my best judgment to get those guys in position to tackle and make plays and try to keep my guys as healthy as I can, so I can get them to the regular season and we’re able to play at a good level. Everybody in the NFL has the same problem, trying to keep guys healthy and how to practice and get work done without exposing your guys to possible injury.”

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[kcxiv]

Exactly as expected. Its gonna take a while.

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

I've opened a dialogue with an ambassador from the Cleveland Browns fanbase

Is this code for, "I've been talking to a 30 year old dipshit Browns fan who too has never kissed a real girl."

[mcaj22]

Originally Posted by Just Not Gettin' It

You take players to be players. Pioli, like Belichick, has built his 3-4 D-line (well 2/3 of it, since the other 3rd was already there) with draft picks. Was there a better 2 gap, 3-4 DE than Jackson drafted in rounds 1 or 2 of that 2009 draft?

BJ Raji, Ziggy Hood, Matt Shaughnessy

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

BJ Raji, Ziggy Hood, Matt Shaughnessy

Pay attention...

[BigMeatballDave]

Actually, TJ is better than all 3 of those guys. LOL

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Phobia

Is this code for, "I've been talking to a 30 year old dipshit Browns fan who too has never kissed a real girl."

Talking? They Skype nude.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

BJ Raji, Ziggy Hood, Matt Shaughnessy

Raji is a NT
Hood's running a 1 gap system and has mostly been a backup
Shaughnessy is running in a 4-3, and was a 3rd round pick

[Bootlegged]

Meanwhile, Fletcher Cox falls into our lap and we draft this guy. Andy Dalton falls to us the year before, but no dice. Awesome.

[oldman]

I think Poe will be OK this year. I don't expect him to be a star in his rookie season, but if we can get the push up the middle in passing situations from him, we have a couple pretty fair OLBs that will take advantage of that. If he doesn't step up next year, then we can judge.

[WhiteWhale]

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

Old. Soft.

Where have we read this story before?

DV was old and DV was nice,and DV cried like a baby, but DV was notorious for running one of the absolute toughest and most grueling camps in the NFL. We were constantly being reported to the league for overworking players during camp when DV was here.

[BoneKrusher]

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

DV was old and DV was nice,and DV cried like a baby, but DV was notorious for running one of the absolute toughest and most grueling camps in the NFL. We were constantly being reported to the league for overworking players during camp when DV was here.

yeah, he put together one helluva offense.
the defense sucked but that offense could hang with the best of em'.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by SDKCCHIEFS

other than Suh's bigass.

You can name a few other DL who take off immediately as well.

The thing is, the vast majority of DL develop over three years.

If anybody declares Poe a bust at all before the conclusion of the 2014 season, I will wreck things.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by Just Not Gettin' It

You take players to be players. Pioli, like Belichick, has built his 3-4 D-line (well 2/3 of it, since the other 3rd was already there) with draft picks. Was there a better 2 gap, 3-4 DE than Jackson drafted in rounds 1 or 2 of that 2009 draft?

I'm actually not sure there was another 2-gap 3-4 DE taken in those rounds that year.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

BJ Raji, Ziggy Hood, Matt Shaughnessy

Two of those players don't even apply.

Raji -- 1 gap, 3-4
Shaughnessy -- 4-3 defense

The only one that applies is Ziggy Hood. At present moment, I'd take Jackson.

Hood's got more of a rush, Jackson is more dominant against the run. But Hood's long had passrushers around him that absorb all the attention and a dominant nose tackle next to him.

Jackson doesn't. Yet.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by Just Not Gettin' It

Raji is a NT
Hood's running a 1 gap system and has mostly been a backup
Shaughnessy is running in a 4-3, and was a 3rd round pick

Wrong. Steelers run 2-gap.