Chiefs I think the QB of the future may be on our roster already. - Page 4

Coogs · 09-03-2012, 01:26 PM

Laugh if you must, but I really think the QB we are looking for might be Brady Quinn.

I re-watched the game from last Thursday this morning. All-in-all, I felt like Quinn was very sharp... given the fact that he just started getting some time with the first string players earlier in the week.

Cassel's only pass, and Quinn's first pass were nearly the identical same play. Bowe had to go to the ground to catch Cassel's throw. Breaston caught Quinn's right were the ball should have been thrown, and turned it up-field for 3 or so more yards.

Quinn's 2nd pass was a beautifully thrown ball that hit Baldwin right in stride, and Baldwin was able to turn it up for several more yards.

The next two passes were highly criticized around here after/since the game. I did not see that much there that can not be fixed... once Quinn gets more time with the #1's to get timing issues worked out. All thorughout OTA's and Training Camp, I never recall hearing Quinn (or Stanzi) making any plays with any #1 receivers. Not even during drills.

Anyway. On the first one, as slant pass to Baldwin, it looks like just a matter of timing. They were on the same page... but just didn't connect. More reps together to develop some chemistry, and that is a TD easily.

The next play... which was an Interception that was negated by a penalty on the Packers... that had a whistle blown in the middle of the play... it appeared that Baldwin and Quinn were not on the same page. Quinn's pass appeared that he expected Baldwin to go inside instead of on the fade route that Baldwin ran. Again, more reps together to develop the right chemistry so they are reading the right thing. Baldwin cuts inside, and that is a TD. Quinn throws the fade pass, and it is also probably a TD. Not on same page. That has to be understandable given the minimal amount of time the two have had together.

Next drive was all backups. Line and skill players.

3rd and 7. Hits Bellamy right on the button for an easy first down.

3rd and 9. Hits Manari right on the numbers for another first down.

3rd and 8. QB draw type of run that would have made Elway proud right up to the non-slide that got him slightly injured.

Then the next pass that has been widely criticized around here. The Interception on the back of the endzone. Again, this was with his backups and not the starters, which gives no excuse to Quinn. BUT... he starts out looking to his left. Staying with his progression, he moves to the middle of the field. At this point, Harris is getting his ass kicked by a Packers defender causing Quinn to have to step up into the pocket, which is collapsing under the 2nd string line. A half of a second more at the most, and Manari is comming wide open on a TE drag across just a little right of where Quinn made the decision to throw. Tiny bit better pocket, and that ball goes to Manari if Quinn has the time to finish his reads and that is an easy TD.

That is all the further I watched. And that was all the further I needed to watch. I am convinced Quinn is going to be just what the doctor ordered for this team. All he needs is more time with the #1's to get on the same page with them.

I know Cassel is the starter for now. I can accept that. He is not the best QB though. And it is not even going to be close... in time.

Coogs · 09-03-2012, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan

I said it already but I put part of the blame on the INT in the endzone on Crennel. Quinn made a mistake but it was clear that the hit he took two plays earlier rattled him pretty bad. A timeout and a regroup I think wouldve prevented the INT.

The INT should not have been thrown. But he did. That said. If the O-line gives him any time at all. It is a TD to Maneri. I'd bank on it.

The 3rd down and long plays were right on the money... thrown to an open receiver. It has been a long time since we have seen that. Usually 3rd and long requires a draw or checkdown pass with hopes of the RB being able to convert the last few yards to the sticks.

The guy is only 27. I am not opposed at all to drafting a QB either. But that QB may be 27 before he "gets it" in the NFL. Ryan has done a nice job early in his career. He is now 27. Point is, there is probably a learning curve for a rookie QB to get to the Super Bowl.

This team does not need Dan Marino to get it done. We just need someone who can keep the chains moving behind a stout running game. Quinn appears to be able to make the plays to do just that.

Like I say. Laugh if you must... which some of you are. Quinn just might be what this team needs to get over the hump. AFTER he gets some more time with the #1's to get some chemistry and timing developed.

Sofa King · 09-03-2012, 03:30 PM

Saccopoo · 09-03-2012, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

The INT should not have been thrown. But he did. That said. If the O-line gives him any time at all. It is a TD to Maneri. I'd bank on it.

The 3rd down and long plays were right on the money... thrown to an open receiver. It has been a long time since we have seen that. Usually 3rd and long requires a draw or checkdown pass with hopes of the RB being able to convert the last few yards to the sticks.

The guy is only 27. I am not opposed at all to drafting a QB either. But that QB may be 27 before he "gets it" in the NFL. Ryan has done a nice job early in his career. He is now 27. Point is, there is probably a learning curve for a rookie QB to get to the Super Bowl.

This team does not need Dan Marino to get it done. We just need someone who can keep the chains moving behind a stout running game. Quinn appears to be able to make the plays to do just that.

Like I say. Laugh if you must... which some of you are. Quinn just might be what this team needs to get over the hump. AFTER he gets some more time with the #1's to get some chemistry and timing developed.

He's got a better arm, throws a better pass and can hit the open receiver. He's got a better feel in the pocket and doesn't panic as easily dumping off passes to the back after the first read.

Coogs is correct and the preseason showed why. He was the best of the three QB's on roster, threw better passes and that was playing with the junk that was getting dumped on the first cut day.

In58men · 09-03-2012, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

I'll settle for top 30.

Oh **** yeah

Coogs · 09-03-2012, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58

Oh **** yeah

Aren't you needed in a Luv or Dr. Johnny thread?

**007** · 09-03-2012, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Sofa King

no no no no no

They're STILL shitty

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-03-2012, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious

God help us.

Being a Chiefs fan is great.

09-03-2012, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58

This has to be one of the dumbest threads created. I'd rather read 5 luv threads and 8 Dr Johnny threads before reading just 1 of yours.

Coming from you? Really? You're not even qualified to judge thread quality in D.C. Coogs is GTG. I don't know if I agree with him here but he's posted a lot more good football takes than bad.

ILChief · 09-03-2012, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru

no no no no no

They're STILL shitty

Hammock Parties · 09-03-2012, 04:25 PM

Now think about this:

Statistically, Brady Quinn has accomplished less in this league than Tyler Thigpen.

Do I need to start a Quinn vs Thiggy poll?

aturnis · 09-03-2012, 04:35 PM

He did have a sweet TD pass against the Packers....

**BossChief** · 09-03-2012, 04:35 PM

Id take a Thigpen lead Pistol offense with our defense over a pro style offense lead bby Matt Cassel and our defense.

In 11 games...

2608 passing yards
386 yards rushing
22 totaal touchdowns (18 passing tds, 3 rushing tds, 1 receiving touchdown)
12 interceptions

**BossChief** · 09-03-2012, 04:42 PM

BTW

If you take those numbers and extrapolate them over the course of 16 games, you get:

4,407 total yards (WOW)
3793 passing yards
561 rushing yards
53 receiving yards (thank you, Ronde)
32 total touchdowns
17 interceptions

Couple that with our defense, and it would be a fun year.

Gimmick or not.

Go ahead and check my math...

Hammock Parties · 09-03-2012, 04:44 PM

And that was with the beta version of Dwayne Bowe and no Jamaal Charles, behind a shitty offensive line.

Thiggy is not better than Cassel....but he is damn sure getting the shaft in this thread. Not that I even like the sawed off bastard, I just hate Cassel more.

**BossChief** · 09-03-2012, 04:46 PM

BTW...Hillis and Charles would RAPE FACES in a pistol behind this OL.

09-03-2012, 01:26 PM
Coogs In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Northern Kansas Casino cash: $-2135651	I think the QB of the future may be on our roster already. Laugh if you must, but I really think the QB we are looking for might be Brady Quinn. I re-watched the game from last Thursday this morning. All-in-all, I felt like Quinn was very sharp... given the fact that he just started getting some time with the first string players earlier in the week. Cassel's only pass, and Quinn's first pass were nearly the identical same play. Bowe had to go to the ground to catch Cassel's throw. Breaston caught Quinn's right were the ball should have been thrown, and turned it up-field for 3 or so more yards. Quinn's 2nd pass was a beautifully thrown ball that hit Baldwin right in stride, and Baldwin was able to turn it up for several more yards. The next two passes were highly criticized around here after/since the game. I did not see that much there that can not be fixed... once Quinn gets more time with the #1's to get timing issues worked out. All thorughout OTA's and Training Camp, I never recall hearing Quinn (or Stanzi) making any plays with any #1 receivers. Not even during drills. Anyway. On the first one, as slant pass to Baldwin, it looks like just a matter of timing. They were on the same page... but just didn't connect. More reps together to develop some chemistry, and that is a TD easily. The next play... which was an Interception that was negated by a penalty on the Packers... that had a whistle blown in the middle of the play... it appeared that Baldwin and Quinn were not on the same page. Quinn's pass appeared that he expected Baldwin to go inside instead of on the fade route that Baldwin ran. Again, more reps together to develop the right chemistry so they are reading the right thing. Baldwin cuts inside, and that is a TD. Quinn throws the fade pass, and it is also probably a TD. Not on same page. That has to be understandable given the minimal amount of time the two have had together. Next drive was all backups. Line and skill players. 3rd and 7. Hits Bellamy right on the button for an easy first down. 3rd and 9. Hits Manari right on the numbers for another first down. 3rd and 8. QB draw type of run that would have made Elway proud right up to the non-slide that got him slightly injured. Then the next pass that has been widely criticized around here. The Interception on the back of the endzone. Again, this was with his backups and not the starters, which gives no excuse to Quinn. BUT... he starts out looking to his left. Staying with his progression, he moves to the middle of the field. At this point, Harris is getting his ass kicked by a Packers defender causing Quinn to have to step up into the pocket, which is collapsing under the 2nd string line. A half of a second more at the most, and Manari is comming wide open on a TE drag across just a little right of where Quinn made the decision to throw. Tiny bit better pocket, and that ball goes to Manari if Quinn has the time to finish his reads and that is an easy TD. That is all the further I watched. And that was all the further I needed to watch. I am convinced Quinn is going to be just what the doctor ordered for this team. All he needs is more time with the #1's to get on the same page with them. I know Cassel is the starter for now. I can accept that. He is not the best QB though. And it is not even going to be close... in time.
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Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $930478	Now think about this: Statistically, Brady Quinn has accomplished less in this league than Tyler Thigpen. Do I need to start a Quinn vs Thiggy poll? __________________ Chiefs game films
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BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1645912	Id take a Thigpen lead Pistol offense with our defense over a pro style offense lead bby Matt Cassel and our defense. In 11 games... 2608 passing yards 386 yards rushing 22 totaal touchdowns (18 passing tds, 3 rushing tds, 1 receiving touchdown) 12 interceptions
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09-03-2012, 04:42 PM	#58
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1645912	BTW If you take those numbers and extrapolate them over the course of 16 games, you get: 4,407 total yards (WOW) 3793 passing yards 561 rushing yards 53 receiving yards (thank you, Ronde) 32 total touchdowns 17 interceptions Couple that with our defense, and it would be a fun year. Gimmick or not. Go ahead and check my math...
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09-03-2012, 04:44 PM	#59
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $930478	And that was with the beta version of Dwayne Bowe and no Jamaal Charles, behind a shitty offensive line. Thiggy is not better than Cassel....but he is damn sure getting the shaft in this thread. Not that I even like the sawed off bastard, I just hate Cassel more. __________________ Chiefs game films
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09-03-2012, 04:46 PM	#60
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1645912	BTW...Hillis and Charles would RAPE FACES in a pistol behind this OL.
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