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Old 11-01-2012, 09:40 PM  
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I do not understand why Stanzi did not play tonight.
Cassel lead us to another garbage TD!! Why not play the kid?
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Old 11-02-2012, 11:52 AM   #106
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Old 11-02-2012, 11:53 AM   #107
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Old 11-02-2012, 11:56 AM   #108
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What happens if the "chosen one" Mr. Smith comes out next year and plays exactly like Stanzi did, in the combined half of a preseason game with the back-ups?

Will he be shitty and cast aside also?

This is assuming we draft him, of course.
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Old 11-02-2012, 11:58 AM   #109
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What happens if the "chosen one" Mr. Smith comes out next year and plays exactly like Stanzi did, in the combined half of a preseason game with the back-ups?

Will he be shitty and cast aside also?

This is assuming we draft him, of course.
Why would he be playing a "combined half of a preseason game with the back-ups"?
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Old 11-02-2012, 12:00 PM   #110
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I'm just making the scenario the same. That's all that Stanzi has seen and people say he's the worst since Cassel, so what if Geno came out and did the same thing?
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Old 11-02-2012, 12:04 PM   #111
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I'm just making the scenario the same. That's all that Stanzi has seen and people say he's the worst since Cassel, so what if Geno came out and did the same thing?
It isn't the same scenario. One is a first rounder who's going to start immediately. The other is Ricky Stanzi.
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Old 11-02-2012, 12:07 PM   #112
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It isn't the same scenario. One is a first rounder who's going to start immediately. The other is Ricky Stanzi.
This....
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Old 11-02-2012, 12:08 PM   #113
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It isn't the same scenario. One is a first rounder who's going to start immediately. The other is Ricky Stanzi.
There are no guarantees in football, answer the question.
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Old 11-02-2012, 12:10 PM   #114
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There are no guarantees in football, answer the question.
You invest in a 1st rd QB, you give him every opportunity to succeed or fail..

You dont invest in some 5th round garbage in hopes of "finding a diamond in the rough" or some other bullshit phrase..

Its not even a discussion...
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Old 11-02-2012, 12:11 PM   #115
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You're being ridiculous.
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Old 11-02-2012, 12:11 PM   #116
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It isn't the same scenario. One is a first rounder who's going to start immediately. The other is Ricky Stanzi.
This is truth.

I'm one of Stanzis biggest supporters and even I would rather see a guy with Geno Smiths upside starting over him.

It's not even close, really.
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Old 11-02-2012, 12:15 PM   #117
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Geno Smith is WAY overrated - Vince Young, mk 2013

He would fare marginally better than Stanzi on sheer talent alone, but just barely.

There are no true Franchise QBs coming out this year - this is the worst year possible to be in this position. Geno Smith is NOT the answer

This team needs a complete overhaul, starting with the GM. One QB cannot fix this mess.
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Old 11-02-2012, 12:18 PM   #118
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Cmon man...Stanzi has trouble with the deep ball, has inconsistent accuracy, makes questionable decisions at times and wasn't looked at by evaluators as a starter. Sucks, but it's true.

Guys like Stanzi only get a chance when other options are exhausted...no matter how much some of us don't want to believe that. It's politics.

Guys like Geno, Barkley and others are handed a starting job and they have to lose it by playing poorly for multiple years. It's all about upside and how many things the quarterback can do to help a team win and there are 3 guys in this upcoming draft that I would rather have starting over Stanzi and I have bought into Stanzi.
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Geno Smith is WAY overrated - Vince Young, mk 2013

He would fare marginally better than Stanzi on sheer talent alone, but just barely.

There are no true Franchise QBs coming out this year - this is the worst year possible to be in this position. Geno Smith is NOT the answer

This team needs a complete overhaul, starting with the GM. One QB cannot fix this mess.
There are several QB's coming out that will have decent NFL careers. Its not the worst year ever for QB's...

There are franchise QB's in this draft.
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Old 11-02-2012, 12:20 PM   #120
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Geno Smith is WAY overrated - Vince Young, mk 2013

He would fare marginally better than Stanzi on sheer talent alone, but just barely.

There are no true Franchise QBs coming out this year - this is the worst year possible to be in this position. Geno Smith is NOT the answer

This team needs a complete overhaul, starting with the GM. One QB cannot fix this mess.
That's the issue- we've been in this position for ten years. Taking a QB in the first round is the only sane thing to do at this point.
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