NFL Draft Qb Drafting Guessing game. - Page 2

O.city · 10:36 PM

The stuff posted about who scouts like and who they don't, got me thinking about predraft rankings.

So lets play a little game. I tried it in another thread but it kinda got buried.

I think this will be a good visual for some of the "don't draft x QB early, he isn't Luck etc" fans.

So, I will post a pre draft scouting report and you guys try and guess the player.

Put this one in the other thread so we will start with it.

POSITIVES: Athletic passer with the physical skills and mental intangibles needed to lead a franchise at the next level. Quickly sets up in the pocket, sells ball fakes and technically very sound. Poised under the rush, steps up to avoid defenders and works to keep the play alive. Patient, buys time in the pocket and waits for receivers to come free. Does an excellent job with his reads and natural looking off the safety. Does not make mental errors and throws the ball away rather than toss the errant pass. Times the short and intermediate throws well, as receivers rarely wait for the ball out of their breaks. Outstanding vision and immediately spots the open receiver. Possesses a quick release, live arm and zips the outs or gets the ball downfield. Throws with touch. Sits in the pocket and takes a big hit in order to get the pass off. Fleet-footed and picks up yardage with his legs when necessary.

NEGATIVES: Though accurate, lacks top pass placement and has receivers extending vertically to pull the ball out of the air. Must improve his accuracy down the field. Lacks top footwork releasing the ball off a three step drop. Lacks pocket stature.

ANALYSIS: A physically gifted passer with a great understanding of the position, _____ has made himself one of the nation's top quarterback prospects the past two seasons. May not fit every system, but should quickly flourish in the NFL for a timing offense that does not throw the ball down the field with regularity. Offers a good amount of upside and is a coachable player who should continually improve his game.

PROJECTION: Early First Round

Who is it?

Here's another one.

A vocal leader in the huddle. Arm strength is not spectacular but strong enough. Not a threat to run the ball , but scrambles extremely well. Solid with his technique.
Weaknesses
Accuracy is the number one concern. 19 interceptions in 14 games is unacceptable for a first round pick. Most interceptions are a result of short arming passes

All QB's listed are currently in the league.

O.city · 12-05-2012, 10:48 PM

The Good: Big armed pocket passer with the abilities to make plays in or out of the pocket. Poised under pressure, looks off the safety and takes what the defense gives him. Possesses a terrific pump fake, drives his long passes down the field and smartly places his deep throws in front of the target, letting receivers run to the ball. Gets outside the pocket, makes plays on the move and loses nothing on his throws displaying zip on the short passes or driving the deep tosses while on the run. In complete control of the offense in every sense of the word and a true leader that makes good decisions and does not put his team in a bad spot.

The Bad: Needs to improve his footwork, release and does not throw the tightest spirals.

Sorter is 2/3.

You guys need to pick it up.

Sorter · 12-05-2012, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city

The Good: Big armed pocket passer with the abilities to make plays in or out of the pocket. Poised under pressure, looks off the safety and takes what the defense gives him. Possesses a terrific pump fake, drives his long passes down the field and smartly places his deep throws in front of the target, letting receivers run to the ball. Gets outside the pocket, makes plays on the move and loses nothing on his throws displaying zip on the short passes or driving the deep tosses while on the run. In complete control of the offense in every sense of the word and a true leader that makes good decisions and does not put his team in a bad spot.

The Bad: Needs to improve his footwork, release and does not throw the tightest spirals.

Sorter is 2/3.

You guys need to pick it up.

This one is a little tricky because it says he's got great zip and arm but says doesn't throw tight spirals.

The footwork/release makes me think this is Cutler or Stafford.

**The Franchise** · 12-05-2012, 10:50 PM

Big Ben?

O.city · 12-05-2012, 10:50 PM

Anyone else on that one?

O.city · 12-05-2012, 10:51 PM

Pest with a win.

Good job buddy.

O.city · 12-05-2012, 10:51 PM

Load up another? Ok.

Strengths: Average height, but has great bulk ... Born with a rocket launcher for a right arm ... Throws the ball with a nice, tight spiral consistently ... Puts great touch on fade routes ... Displays a compact release ... Secures the football in the pocket ... Plays in a pro-style offense and is well coached ... Has a lot of experience against top competition as a 3 year starter ... More productive in junior season than he was in past ... Upside warrants a top three pick.

Weaknesses: Drop could be much quicker ... Sluggish footwork at times ... Throws off his back foot more than he should and it leads to poor accuracy ... Puts too much zip on the football on intermediate and crossing routes ... Doesn't sell the play action as well as he could ... Not going to elude pressure in the pocket, but does a decent job of moving the chains with his feet ... Doesn't show an understanding to audible into the correct pass protection or diagnose coverages.

**The Franchise** · 12-05-2012, 10:52 PM

Stafford?

Hammock Parties · 12-05-2012, 10:52 PM

Stafford.

Sorter · 12-05-2012, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Stafford?

^^This

**The Franchise** · 12-05-2012, 10:54 PM

Would you stop posting? I end up getting distracted looking at Boxxy.

Sorter · 12-05-2012, 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Would you stop posting? I end up getting distracted looking at Boxxy.

Rasputin · 12-05-2012, 10:55 PM

http://results.interesting.cc/click/...3bdbc2b0c1&n=0

For shits and giggles I looked up Matt Cassels predraft scouting report and this is the result I got.

Sorter · 12-05-2012, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

http://results.interesting.cc/click/...3bdbc2b0c1&n=0

For shits and giggles I looked up Matt Cassels predraft scouting report and this is the result I got.

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That seems fairly accurate to me.

O.city · 12-05-2012, 10:56 PM

3 way tie there.

Nicely played fellas, I'm making em too easy.

Wears left knee brace… During pregame warmup, didn’t look like he had a rocket arm… As game progressed, I saw excellent arm strength under pressure and the ability to get velocity on the ball on most throws. Good deep ball range. Good touch. Good vision and poise.

Sees the field… In shotgun on most plays and his only running option is a draw… his offensive line is poor. Red-shirt freshman left tackle. ____ doesn’t trust his protection. Can’t. No way he can take any form of a deep drop and look downfield. With no running game (10 yards rushing the first half) and no real top receivers, he’s stuck with the three-step drops and waiting til the last second to see if a receiver can get free. No tight end either. No flaring back. So he’s taking some big hits. Taking them well. Carried an overmatched team entirely on his shoulders. … He’s big, never gets rattled. Rallied his team from a 14-3 halftime deficit basically all by himself. Led them on two successive third quarter drives to go ahead, 17-16. The first touchdown, a 40-yard streak down the left sideline, he dropped the ball over the receiver’s right shoulder. Called the next touchdown pass himself, checking off to a 12-yard slant… Makes a lot of decisions on play calls at the line of scrimmage, but they ask too much of him. They don’t just let him play. This is a guy you should just let play… When he’s inaccurate, he’s usually high, but rarely off target to either side… Plays smart and with complete confidence. Doesn’t scold his teammates, but lets them know when they line up wrong or run the wrong pattern… Threw three interceptions. Two were his fault. Trying to force something both times. He could have run on one of them, a fourth down play. He has a lot to learn.

Summary: I think he’s the complete package. He’s not going to be a fast runner, but a little like Joe Montana, he has enough athletic ability to get out of trouble. In that department, . But he has a feel for the pocket. Feels the rush.

Throws the ball, takes the hit, gets right back up… Has courage and poise. In my opinion, most of all, he has that quality you can’t define. Call it magic. As [former Baltimore Colts defensive back] Bobby Boyd told me once about Unitas, “Two things set him apart: his left testicle and his right testicle.”… . ___ doesnt get much help from the coaching staff. If he comes out early, we should move up to take him. These guys are rare, you know.

**The Franchise** · 12-05-2012, 10:58 PM

Are these all about starters?

12-05-2012, 10:28 PM
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-675936	Qb Drafting Guessing game. The stuff posted about who scouts like and who they don't, got me thinking about predraft rankings. So lets play a little game. I tried it in another thread but it kinda got buried. I think this will be a good visual for some of the "don't draft x QB early, he isn't Luck etc" fans. So, I will post a pre draft scouting report and you guys try and guess the player. Put this one in the other thread so we will start with it. POSITIVES: Athletic passer with the physical skills and mental intangibles needed to lead a franchise at the next level. Quickly sets up in the pocket, sells ball fakes and technically very sound. Poised under the rush, steps up to avoid defenders and works to keep the play alive. Patient, buys time in the pocket and waits for receivers to come free. Does an excellent job with his reads and natural looking off the safety. Does not make mental errors and throws the ball away rather than toss the errant pass. Times the short and intermediate throws well, as receivers rarely wait for the ball out of their breaks. Outstanding vision and immediately spots the open receiver. Possesses a quick release, live arm and zips the outs or gets the ball downfield. Throws with touch. Sits in the pocket and takes a big hit in order to get the pass off. Fleet-footed and picks up yardage with his legs when necessary. NEGATIVES: Though accurate, lacks top pass placement and has receivers extending vertically to pull the ball out of the air. Must improve his accuracy down the field. Lacks top footwork releasing the ball off a three step drop. Lacks pocket stature. ANALYSIS: A physically gifted passer with a great understanding of the position, _____ has made himself one of the nation's top quarterback prospects the past two seasons. May not fit every system, but should quickly flourish in the NFL for a timing offense that does not throw the ball down the field with regularity. Offers a good amount of upside and is a coachable player who should continually improve his game. PROJECTION: Early First Round Who is it? Here's another one. A vocal leader in the huddle. Arm strength is not spectacular but strong enough. Not a threat to run the ball , but scrambles extremely well. Solid with his technique. Weaknesses Accuracy is the number one concern. 19 interceptions in 14 games is unacceptable for a first round pick. Most interceptions are a result of short arming passes All QB's listed are currently in the league. Last edited by O.city; 12-05-2012 at 10:36 PM..
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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-675936	The Good: Big armed pocket passer with the abilities to make plays in or out of the pocket. Poised under pressure, looks off the safety and takes what the defense gives him. Possesses a terrific pump fake, drives his long passes down the field and smartly places his deep throws in front of the target, letting receivers run to the ball. Gets outside the pocket, makes plays on the move and loses nothing on his throws displaying zip on the short passes or driving the deep tosses while on the run. In complete control of the offense in every sense of the word and a true leader that makes good decisions and does not put his team in a bad spot. The Bad: Needs to improve his footwork, release and does not throw the tightest spirals. Sorter is 2/3. You guys need to pick it up.
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12-05-2012, 10:56 PM	#29
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-675936	3 way tie there. Nicely played fellas, I'm making em too easy. Wears left knee brace… During pregame warmup, didn’t look like he had a rocket arm… As game progressed, I saw excellent arm strength under pressure and the ability to get velocity on the ball on most throws. Good deep ball range. Good touch. Good vision and poise. Sees the field… In shotgun on most plays and his only running option is a draw… his offensive line is poor. Red-shirt freshman left tackle. ____ doesn’t trust his protection. Can’t. No way he can take any form of a deep drop and look downfield. With no running game (10 yards rushing the first half) and no real top receivers, he’s stuck with the three-step drops and waiting til the last second to see if a receiver can get free. No tight end either. No flaring back. So he’s taking some big hits. Taking them well. Carried an overmatched team entirely on his shoulders. … He’s big, never gets rattled. Rallied his team from a 14-3 halftime deficit basically all by himself. Led them on two successive third quarter drives to go ahead, 17-16. The first touchdown, a 40-yard streak down the left sideline, he dropped the ball over the receiver’s right shoulder. Called the next touchdown pass himself, checking off to a 12-yard slant… Makes a lot of decisions on play calls at the line of scrimmage, but they ask too much of him. They don’t just let him play. This is a guy you should just let play… When he’s inaccurate, he’s usually high, but rarely off target to either side… Plays smart and with complete confidence. Doesn’t scold his teammates, but lets them know when they line up wrong or run the wrong pattern… Threw three interceptions. Two were his fault. Trying to force something both times. He could have run on one of them, a fourth down play. He has a lot to learn. Summary: I think he’s the complete package. He’s not going to be a fast runner, but a little like Joe Montana, he has enough athletic ability to get out of trouble. In that department, . But he has a feel for the pocket. Feels the rush. Throws the ball, takes the hit, gets right back up… Has courage and poise. In my opinion, most of all, he has that quality you can’t define. Call it magic. As [former Baltimore Colts defensive back] Bobby Boyd told me once about Unitas, “Two things set him apart: his left testicle and his right testicle.”… . ___ doesnt get much help from the coaching staff. If he comes out early, we should move up to take him. These guys are rare, you know.
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