Chiefs Worst to First? - Page 3

Mr. Arrowhead · 07-12-2013, 04:04 PM

And the ESPN/NFL Network love fest for the chiefs continue. On NFL Live they said the chiefs were the most likely team to go worst to first in our division, and yes they all realized Peyton Manning is still the qb for the Broncos.

Saccopoo · 07-13-2013, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

Manning's a machine.

unless he just completely loses a step in his game we're chasing a WC spot at this point. I don't think we'll beat Denver at all this season....not w/ Alex Smith. Maybe if Tom Brady or Drew Brees was our QB. In order to beat an elite QB like that you need one of your own.

Manning's arm was a noodle by the end of the season and they had the best/most winnable schedule in the NFL last year.

And I'd like to know who, other than Von Miller, is going to show up on their defense.

Denver doesn't have a very sexy roster and the only reason people think that they are going to amount to jack squat is the Peyton Manning they remember three/four years ago prior to the neck injuries/surgeries. He ain't that guy anymore.

**Dave Lane** · 07-13-2013, 09:41 AM

He only has to be 10% of that guy to be 100 times better than the quarterback we have

MagicHef · 07-13-2013, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Manning's arm was a noodle by the end of the season and they had the best/most winnable schedule in the NFL last year.

And I'd like to know who, other than Von Miller, is going to show up on their defense.

Denver doesn't have a very sexy roster and the only reason people think that they are going to amount to jack squat is the Peyton Manning they remember three/four years ago prior to the neck injuries/surgeries. He ain't that guy anymore.

So who will win the division?

kchero · 07-13-2013, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by DisgruntledFan

Don't know if Q or not, but does anyone see that guy jump up in and out on the right side of this gif?

Saccopoo · 07-13-2013, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef

So who will win the division?

Chiefs.

And I'm not trying to homer it.

If Reid and Smith mesh, and are able to get some ball control offense going, this team has the potential to easily win the AFC West. Smith is a perfect fit for Reid's Lavell Edwards west coast system and it looks like Reid is showing flexibility in modernizing his system by bringing in Ault and Childress to tweak it up with new wrinkles based on the success of the pistol/spread.

The defense was left as a base 34 to take advantage of the personnel on the roster and it's already been noted that they will attack a lot more and man up versus playing a shitty read and react. That will give guys like Hali, Houston, Johnson, Flowers and Berry the opportunity to take advantage of their extensive skill sets/physical/athletic capabilities, in addition to guys like Poe and Bailey who should also blossom in this type of defense.

Potentially the best linebacking corps in the entire league, a top ten (possibly top five) secondary, the second best running back in the league, potentially the best possession receiver in the league, a very solid tight end group and an offensive line that has the potential to be top five/three.

Special teams should be very good with a lot of speed in Wylie, Davis, et al.

The coaching staff might be the best in totality in the entire league as well.

I personally think that last year was an aberration that was a result of Pioli's despotic reign of terror and Crennel/Daboll's massive incompetence.

If these guys/coaches mesh, this is a team with the talent to go supernova.

Saccopoo · 07-13-2013, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by kchero

Don't know if Q or not, but does anyone see that guy jump up in and out on the right side of this gif?

There is actually two guys jumping.

The chick in the middle standing on the chair going full bonkers chicken head is the best.

MagicHef · 07-13-2013, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Chiefs.

And I'm not trying to homer it.

If Reid and Smith mesh, and are able to get some ball control offense going, this team has the potential to easily win the AFC West. Smith is a perfect fit for Reid's Lavell Edwards west coast system and it looks like Reid is showing flexibility in modernizing his system by bringing in Ault and Childress to tweak it up with new wrinkles based on the success of the pistol/spread.

The defense was left as a base 34 to take advantage of the personnel on the roster and it's already been noted that they will attack a lot more and man up versus playing a shitty read and react. That will give guys like Hali, Houston, Johnson, Flowers and Berry the opportunity to take advantage of their extensive skill sets/physical/athletic capabilities, in addition to guys like Poe and Bailey who should also blossom in this type of defense.

Potentially the best linebacking corps in the entire league, a top ten (possibly top five) secondary, the second best running back in the league, potentially the best possession receiver in the league, a very solid tight end group and an offensive line that has the potential to be top five/three.

Special teams should be very good with a lot of speed in Wylie, Davis, et al.

The coaching staff might be the best in totality in the entire league as well.

I personally think that last year was an aberration that was a result of Pioli's despotic reign of terror and Crennel/Daboll's massive incompetence.

If these guys/coaches mesh, this is a team with the talent to go supernova.

You may not be trying, but you're doing a great job.

**Mav** · 07-13-2013, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Chiefs.

And I'm not trying to homer it.

If Reid and Smith mesh, and are able to get some ball control offense going, this team has the potential to easily win the AFC West. Smith is a perfect fit for Reid's Lavell Edwards west coast system and it looks like Reid is showing flexibility in modernizing his system by bringing in Ault and Childress to tweak it up with new wrinkles based on the success of the pistol/spread.

The defense was left as a base 34 to take advantage of the personnel on the roster and it's already been noted that they will attack a lot more and man up versus playing a shitty read and react. That will give guys like Hali, Houston, Johnson, Flowers and Berry the opportunity to take advantage of their extensive skill sets/physical/athletic capabilities, in addition to guys like Poe and Bailey who should also blossom in this type of defense.

Potentially the best linebacking corps in the entire league, a top ten (possibly top five) secondary, the second best running back in the league, potentially the best possession receiver in the league, a very solid tight end group and an offensive line that has the potential to be top five/three.

Special teams should be very good with a lot of speed in Wylie, Davis, et al.

The coaching staff might be the best in totality in the entire league as well.

I personally think that last year was an aberration that was a result of Pioli's despotic reign of terror and Crennel/Daboll's massive incompetence.

If these guys/coaches mesh, this is a team with the talent to go supernova.

While I agree with the majority of your post, the chiefs lbs have zero chance to be willis bowman, Smith, and Brooks......ZERO....

**Mav** · 07-13-2013, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef

You may not be trying, but you're doing a great job.

I cant wait to see the Broncos fail, and fail hard. Your defense is horrible.

MagicHef · 07-13-2013, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579

I cant wait to see the Broncos fail, and fail hard. Your defense is horrible.

You're talking about the defense that finished #2 last season? The defense that was better than the 49ers against the run and the pass?

That defense?

**Rausch** · 07-13-2013, 10:50 AM

NFL wants Denver/Manning Vs. KC.

No one really gives a $3it about the Fade or Chargers...

**Mav** · 07-13-2013, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef

You're talking about the defense that finished #2 last season? The defense that was better than the 49ers against the run and the pass?

That defense?

Yup. That defense. The one that added Dominique Rodgers Cromartie, who is an average cb at best, horrible tackler, and the same defense that lost elvis dummerville. This has nothing to do with the 49ers period. But, then again, your schedule last year was just so tough. Must of been really hard to play against the chiefs, chargers and raiders all twice.

the 49ers would of destroyed the

last year, and that was with EITHER QB.

**Rausch** · 07-13-2013, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef

You're talking about the defense that finished #2 last season? The defense that was better than the 49ers against the run and the pass?

That defense?

That defense that played with a lead for how many quarters?

And how many pts did that defense puke vs winning teams?

It reminds me of the GROB/Elway years...

MagicHef · 07-13-2013, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579

Yup. That defense. The one that added Dominique Rodgers Cromartie, who is an average cb at best, horrible tackler, and the same defense that lost elvis dummerville. This has nothing to do with the 49ers period. But, then again, your schedule last year was just so tough. Must of been really hard to play against the chiefs, chargers and raiders all twice.

the 49ers would of destroyed the

last year, and that was with EITHER QB.

Oh wow, gaining a CB who probably won't start, and losing a guy who was regarded as terrible on this board until he left Denver? That sure will take a defense from #2 to horrible.

At least we beat all the terrible teams in our division. You guys couldn't beat a 7 win team, even though you had 2 games against them.

Saccopoo · 07-13-2013, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579

While I agree with the majority of your post, the chiefs lbs have zero chance to be willis bowman, Smith, and Brooks......ZERO....

Johnson, Houston and Hali were all in the Pro Bowl in 2012.

Consider that Houston and Hali combined for 19 sacks in 2012 when their pass rush opportunities were severely limited due to the Chiefs being behind for the vast majority of the season. If the Chiefs offense can generate any type of ball control in 2013 and keep our pass rushers fresh, I think that they can easily equal the 26.5 sacks put up by Smith and Brooks.

And Johnson had more solo tackles than either Bowman or Willis in 2012. (110 versus 96 and 88 respectively.) If Nico Johnson is able to pick up the defense quickly and put his size and athleticism to work, they could easily have a linebacking corps that is very close to what the 49er's put on the field.

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