Chiefs Worst to First? - Page 13

Mr. Arrowhead · 07-12-2013, 04:04 PM

And the ESPN/NFL Network love fest for the chiefs continue. On NFL Live they said the chiefs were the most likely team to go worst to first in our division, and yes they all realized Peyton Manning is still the qb for the Broncos.

**Mav** · 07-17-2013, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

The only playmakers on that list are Charles and Bowe.

The rest are just homeristic fantasy.

God, because you know for sure how Fasano, Kelce, and Avery are going to play in this offense. Alex Smith has a history of meshing well with Tight Ends. He also did very well last year with Kyle Williams who is the same mold as Avery. Your presumptions, are far off base.

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Originally Posted by MagicHef

I thought you guys were switching to one-gap?

Again, it's not about the talent. If this were in KC, I think you'd win easily.

I just cant see it. Jax is that bad. They didn't add anything to that offense other than Joeckell, and they are still going with Gabbert, or Henne. There is no reason to think that the Jags, being in Jax, or not, should win this game.

milkman · 07-17-2013, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579

God, because you know for sure how Fasano, Kelce, and Avery are going to play in this offense. Alex Smith has a history of meshing well with Tight Ends. He also did very well last year with Kyle Williams who is the same mold as Avery. Your presumptions, are far off base.

I just cant see it. Jax is that bad. They didn't add anything to that offense other than Joeckell, and they are still going with Gabbert, or Henne. There is no reason to think that the Jags, being in Jax, or not, should in this game.

There isn't any presumption.

The only proven playmakers are the two I listed.

The rest are just hope.

ChiefsCountry · 07-17-2013, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef

Florida in early September is miserable. Excepting Oakland's domination in the 70's, AFCW teams are 3-10 in Florida in September, and 2 of those wins came against horrible Tampa Bay teams.

The 13-3 2005 Broncos got destroyed in Miami in the season opener, losing by 24 points. Their other two losses were by 1 and 4 points.

Add to that the first game in a new system for offense and defense, and I don't like KC's chances no matter how good they are and no matter how bad Jacksonville is.

The Chiefs since the merger are 5-17 in games played in Florida. Even during the Marty years, the smart money was to give a loss to the Chiefs when they play in Florida.

**ptlyon** · 07-17-2013, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

The Chiefs since the merger are 5-17 in games played in Florida. Even during the Marty years, the smart money was to give a loss to the Chiefs when they play in Florida.

That was before the all holy was hired tho

MagicHef · 07-17-2013, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

The Chiefs since the merger are 5-17 in games played in Florida. Even during the Marty years, the smart money was to give a loss to the Chiefs when they play in Florida.

Tebow is the only Broncos QB to ever win an away game against the Dolphins.

ChiefsCountry · 07-17-2013, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef

Tebow is the only Broncos QB to ever win an away game against the Dolphins.

3 of the best Chiefs teams ever.

1997 Chiefs 13-3 lost to Dolphins and Jaguars
1995 Chiefs 13-3 lost to Dolphins
1993 Chiefs 11-5 lost to Dolphins, beat Tampa Bay

Its really amazing how shitty they are in Florida.

Discuss Thrower · 07-17-2013, 08:20 PM

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Mile High Mania · 07-17-2013, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

For those of the more visual-spatial mindset, here's this graphic tool for predicting the 2013 season

That could be fun... If you had the time.

**Mav** · 07-17-2013, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

There isn't any presumption.

The only proven playmakers are the two I listed.

The rest are just hope.

Homeristic Fantasy? That's not a presumption? Then what would you call it?

If you were going to be intelligent about it, if you wanted to say anything, you would say they are unknowns. They aren't homeristic fantasy. Fasano has proven to be productive, and a hell of a blocker. Tony Moeaki has proven when healthy he has SKILLS. Those aren't homeristic fantasies. That's truth.

**Mav** · 07-17-2013, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

The Chiefs since the merger are 5-17 in games played in Florida. Even during the Marty years, the smart money was to give a loss to the Chiefs when they play in Florida.

That uh, is not a good sign I must admit.

Discuss Thrower · 07-17-2013, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

That could be fun... If you had the time.

I've simulated season at least five times by now.. Harden the **** up.

R8RFAN · 07-17-2013, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579

Homeristic Fantasy? That's not a presumption? Then what would you call it?

If you were going to be intelligent about it, if you wanted to say anything, you would say they are unknowns. They aren't homeristic fantasy. Fasano has proven to be productive, and a hell of a blocker. Tony Moeaki has proven when healthy he has SKILLS. Those aren't homeristic fantasies. That's truth.

If Moeaki was a gem they would not have brought in Boss last year

**Rausch** · 07-17-2013, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579

That uh, is not a good sign I must admit.

More recent statistics would be Gabbert's home record.

Which is total $#it.

And a very good sign...

Discuss Thrower · 07-17-2013, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

More recent statistics would be Gabbert's home record.

Which is total $#it.

And a very good sign...

One way or another.. if KC can overcome statistical losing scenarios such as JAX, Dallas and at Buffalo then it's some sort of sign things aren't the same as they have been in twenty years.

Maybe.

**BossChief** · 07-17-2013, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by R8ers

If Moeaki was a gem they would not have brought in Boss last year

Most teams are adding second tight ends and unfortunately, Moeaki was coming off a lost year to a torn acl and has a long injury history. His knee was giving him trouble this offseason, too...hence the Fasano signing and the drafting of Kelce with a high pick.

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