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Old 09-12-2013, 09:49 PM  
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You guys really have weepy vaginas!!!!!!!
Wow. He looks pathetic out there. You guys were crying like babies when KC didn't draft him.
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Old 09-13-2013, 05:24 PM   #466
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The Chiefs fan base and season ticket holders just endured the worst season in Franchise History.

Four of the last six were amongst the worst, if not the worst stretch in the past 50 years. Yet, the solution should have been to draft a QB at 1.1 that was clearly incapable turning around the fortunes of the franchise immediately?

Seriously?

You'd ask this fan base to endure watching a QB on pace to throw 32 INT's? He hasn't even faced a real defense yet.
I'm inclined to agree. AS isn't the long term future. I don't know if Bray is, but I will go on record saying the next starter we get will be ours first and will be long term.
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Old 09-13-2013, 05:26 PM   #467
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Only a complete dipshit would expect a rookie QB to turn a horrible team around immediately. You seem to have a lot of like minded people on here with you too.

As has been said, this fanbase doesn't deserve a franchise QB, and is too stupid to realize why.
Because I as a fan have an impact on who they trade for/draft, etc?
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Old 09-13-2013, 05:27 PM   #468
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I think it's crazy to watch the game last night and not see Geno's potential. He is comfortable in the pocket and runs through his reads. He just under-threw guys and has to learn how to get the ball out. People need to learn how to judge things a little deeper than face value.
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Old 09-13-2013, 05:30 PM   #469
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I think it's crazy to watch the game last night and not see Geno's potential. He is comfortable in the pocket and runs through his reads. He just under-threw guys and has to learn how to get the ball out. People need to learn how to judge things a little deeper than face value.
You need to learn how to evaluate QB play.

Comfortable in the pocket? Runs through reads?

Did you watch the game?
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Old 09-13-2013, 05:32 PM   #470
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You need to learn how to evaluate QB play.

Comfortable in the pocket? Runs through reads?

Did you watch the game?
Planning on flip flopping some more? Or are you going to stick with an opinion for once?
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Old 09-13-2013, 05:33 PM   #471
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This attitude towards young QBs is not a new phenomenon around here.
No, it's not.

But there is a huge difference between actually developing a QB, quietly, whether it be as a second or third stringer, and starting a QB that is clearly not ready to start.

Out of the 2013 QB class, I preferred Manuel and Bray due to their ideal size and arm strength. Contrary to what all of the SEC and Florida fans said this offseason, Manuel doesn't "suck" and he has a ton of potential. He's also NFL ready as a starter.

The other players in this draft are not.

Bray is only 21 years old. If he can stay out of trouble and focus on football, he's in a great position to challenge for the starting spot in 2015, in which he'd only be 23 years old to start the season.

IMO, the Chiefs currently have the best of both worlds. A solid NFL starting QB and a young developmental QB. I'm not sure what else people could expect, especially after the past six seasons.
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Old 09-13-2013, 05:34 PM   #472
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I think you missed where I said this wasn't a Smith/Smith debate for me.

This attitude towards young QBs is not a new phenomenon around here.
The question I keep asking is why this is a Smith/Smith debate, and nobody is starting a Smith/Manuel debate. Smith has raised many flags, biggest one being his massive draft day tumble. Manuel's stock is rising and he looked good in week 1 against the same team that crushed Geno.

More than anything, with Geno there are red flags on his attitude and his accuracy has to be called into question. He didn't just underthrow yesterday, he threw passes into the dirt, behind receivers, and over receivers' heads. And not just by a little, by a lot.
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Old 09-13-2013, 05:35 PM   #473
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Planning on flip flopping some more? Or are you going to stick with an opinion for once?
Where did I say differently?
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Old 09-13-2013, 05:35 PM   #474
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I think it's crazy to watch the game last night and not see Geno's potential. He is comfortable in the pocket and runs through his reads. He just under-threw guys and has to learn how to get the ball out. People need to learn how to judge things a little deeper than face value.
He looked good at times, which were followed up by horrendous decisions, overthrows, underthrows and awful pocket presence. Essentially, the same knocks he had back in April.

Maybe he'll "get it" and maybe he won't. But he's faced two of the worst defenses in the NFL his first two weeks and has four INT's.

And without an egregiously stupid play on the behalf of Lavonte David, the Jets would be 0-2.
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Old 09-13-2013, 05:36 PM   #475
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Where did I say differently?
You were all over Geno's nuts up until we didn't draft him.....now all of a sudden he had problems in college and is not improving.
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You were all over Geno's nuts up until we didn't draft him.....now all of a sudden he had problems in college and is not improving.
Um, no.

I liked him, but said he had problems. I would have like for us to have drafted him, but I realized what he wasn't and moved on.
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And did he not have problems in college, the same problems he's having now?
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Old 09-13-2013, 05:42 PM   #478
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The question I keep asking is why this is a Smith/Smith debate, and nobody is starting a Smith/Manuel debate. Smith has raised many flags, biggest one being his massive draft day tumble. Manuel's stock is rising and he looked good in week 1 against the same team that crushed Geno.

More than anything, with Geno there are red flags on his attitude and his accuracy has to be called into question. He didn't just underthrow yesterday, he threw passes into the dirt, behind receivers, and over receivers' heads. And not just by a little, by a lot.
It doesn't matter who is on the other end of the debate.

Christ, people think we got the best QB of the class as an UDFA.
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Planning on flip flopping some more? Or are you going to stick with an opinion for once?
I flipped. Once I saw the Chiefs were not going to take him, I jumped ship.

Not sure why any Chiefs fan should give a shit about Geno.
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