What Does the Farmer Say?

[Deberg_1990]

Work, work, work, work, work, wa work!

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Fish

Have you ever priced one of those air-conditioned GPS capable combines that you started your spiel with? $500,000 just for itself. That's not counting the header, trailer, spare tires($2-3k per tire), fuel, and everything needed for maintenance. That's just one implement. Do you have any idea what the maintenance costs of something like that are? Obviously you don't, or you would see how completely dumb your claim is.

Add in 4 or 5 grain trucks, trailers, storage sheds, cost and upkeep of cattle, land taxes, feed, seed, fertilizer, tools, and agricultural insurance to cover your millions of dollars of assets.

And farmers don't have regular pay periods either. Which requires considerable financial responsibility. You greatly underestimate the effort needed to manage finances in an ag business environment.

You've reduced your argument to mental exhaustion. Well that could be argued as well, but why bother at this point. You're just wrong. Farming is hard ****ing work and will age a man hard, which is why I left the farm and got a job in the city.

I've said 100 times over that farming is hard.

But so are a shitload of other jobs. And farmers that act like every day is 18 hours of swinging axes and digging holes by hand are full of shit. They also have days at the sale barn where they're just chatting all day before they go making bids. Days where they just trek down to the co-op and yack about so and so's new rig for an hour before some kid throws a thousand pounds of seed in their truck.

Their job isn't unlike most others; they're just the only ones that act like nobody else works hard for their money.

My problem isn't their workload, it's their bullshit attitude that nobody else has one.

And as for the expenses, again, you're trying to equate every single farmer with a guy running a solo shop on a shoestring budget; that doesn't speak to the guys that are just contract farmers for someone else. If you want to make a fair comparison, you have to compare your guy that's in charge of everything to any other small-business owner that carries the same responsibility. Those guys deal with the same shit the farmer does.

Farmers sit around all the time and belittle everyone that doesn't farm and it's simply unwarranted. They carry burdens and responsibilities that are no greater than most other similarly situated workers in this country.

[saphojunkie]

Originally Posted by salame

aren't farmers all tax cheats?

Damn it with all these liberals and their handouts! *takes billions in federal subsidies without a hint of irony*

[Hammock Parties]

he said bring your playbook

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

Damn it with all these liberals and their handouts! *takes billions in federal subsidies without a hint of irony*

I saw a shitload of new trucks in northern Missouri once those corn subsidies passed.

Just sayin'...

[Fish]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I've said 100 times over that farming is hard.

But so are a shitload of other jobs. And farmers that act like every day is 18 hours of swinging axes and digging holes by hand are full of shit. They also have days at the sale barn where they're just chatting all day before they go making bids. Days where they just trek down to the co-op and yack about so and so's new rig for an hour before some kid throws a thousand pounds of seed in their truck.

Their job isn't unlike most others; they're just the only ones that act like nobody else works hard for their money.

My problem isn't their workload, it's their bullshit attitude that nobody else has one.

And as for the expenses, again, you're trying to equate every single farmer with a guy running a solo shop on a shoestring budget; that doesn't speak to the guys that are just contract farmers for someone else. If you want to make a fair comparison, you have to compare your guy that's in charge of everything to any other small-business owner that carries the same responsibility. Those guys deal with the same shit the farmer does.

Farmers sit around all the time and belittle everyone that doesn't farm and it's simply unwarranted. They carry burdens and responsibilities that are no greater than most other similarly situated workers in this country.

Farmers sit around and belittle everyone that doesn't farm?

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Fish

Farmers sit around and belittle everyone that doesn't farm?

To their face? No. Like I said - they tend to be among the friendliest folks you'll meet.

But my god, 'sissified city folk' are pretty much ever-present in casual conversation between them. Again, usually on about their 3rd cup of coffee while deciding if they want a slice of pie with lunch (farmers eat a ton of dessert, man).

Amazingly, one of my co-workers (who's a good friend) that grew up farming will still yack about how much harder 'all of us farm folks' work and yet all the time he says that he's just going to retire to go back to farming because he's tired of {insert today's problem}. A guy I went to school with quit his job because he was tired of the headaches and went back to working his dad's farm. Everyone has shit to deal with and a lot of folks appear to prefer the farmers shit over others'.

It's damn hard to find a farmer that's willing to give any credit to people that aren't farmers for working hard. Your position throughout this exercise has pretty much firmed that one up for me.

[RealSNR]

There was a farmer that had a narrow patch of somewhat rough land that he got sick of trying to make work, so he sold it as a set of four residential properties. My folks bought one, and another couple from town that they knew bought another.

My dad and both the wife and the husband from the other couple are doctors. All of them are still practicing, but they're nearing retirement. They pretty much just bought and built these country homes as dream houses.

Well, all the other farmers from the area of course know that they live out there now. They see these large fancy houses they've built, too. So apparently my mom heard from the other couple that when talking among themselves, they call that stretch of homes "Silver Spoon Lane".

I mean... what the **** are those assholes talking about? My dad grew up shit poor and in debt up to his eyeballs from years of college, med school, and residency. Same goes for the other guy. There's nothing any more "silver spoon" about my folks than the farmers who inherited their land from generations and generations of Norwegian immigrant farmers and whose amount of wealth, while tied into equipment and maintenance, is likely multiple times larger than whatever fortune my parents have amassed throughout their working lives.

"Silver Spoon Lane." Can you believe that shit?

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by SNR

There was a farmer that had a narrow patch of somewhat rough land that he got sick of trying to make work, so he sold it as a set of four residential properties. My folks bought one, and another couple from town that they knew bought another.

My dad and both the wife and the husband from the other couple are doctors. All of them are still practicing, but they're nearing retirement. They pretty much just bought and built these country homes as dream houses.

Well, all the other farmers from the area of course know that they live out there now. They see these large fancy houses they've built, too. So apparently my mom heard from the other couple that when talking among themselves, they call that stretch of homes "Silver Spoon Lane".

I mean... what the **** are those assholes talking about? My dad grew up shit poor and in debt up to his eyeballs from years of college, med school, and residency. Same goes for the other guy. There's nothing any more "silver spoon" about my folks than the farmers who inherited their land from generations and generations of Norwegian immigrant farmers and whose amount of wealth, while tied into equipment and maintenance, is likely multiple times larger than whatever fortune my parents have amassed throughout their working lives.

"Silver Spoon Lane." Can you believe that shit?

Your parents should go down to the Co-op and bring some fresh coffee and biscuits. That'll straighten that shit right up.

[salame]

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

Your parents should go down to the Co-op and bring some fresh coffee and biscuits. That'll straighten that shit right up.

and share some tax fudging secrets

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by SNR

There was a farmer that had a narrow patch of somewhat rough land that he got sick of trying to make work, so he sold it as a set of four residential properties. My folks bought one, and another couple from town that they knew bought another.

My dad and both the wife and the husband from the other couple are doctors. All of them are still practicing, but they're nearing retirement. They pretty much just bought and built these country homes as dream houses.

Well, all the other farmers from the area of course know that they live out there now. They see these large fancy houses they've built, too. So apparently my mom heard from the other couple that when talking among themselves, they call that stretch of homes "Silver Spoon Lane".

I mean... what the **** are those assholes talking about? My dad grew up shit poor and in debt up to his eyeballs from years of college, med school, and residency. Same goes for the other guy. There's nothing any more "silver spoon" about my folks than the farmers who inherited their land from generations and generations of Norwegian immigrant farmers and whose amount of wealth, while tied into equipment and maintenance, is likely multiple times larger than whatever fortune my parents have amassed throughout their working lives.

"Silver Spoon Lane." Can you believe that shit?

Yes. Yes I can.

If only your father would've worked hard for a living, he could've earned their respect.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

Your parents should go down to the Co-op and bring some fresh coffee and biscuits. That'll straighten that shit right up.

My dad, when he heard that, was about ready to give them a nice bag of homemade fertilizer... on fire.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by salame

and share some tax fudging secrets

Originally Posted by SNR

My dad, when he heard that, was about ready to give them a nice bag of homemade fertilizer... on fire.

[Deberg_1990]

Damn, DJs left Nut basically ripping up all the farmer stereotypes to shreds.

I guess John Mellencamp and Willie Nelson were full of shit.

[MOhillbilly]

Silver spoons. Lol. **** you silver spoons.

Dj what do you know about farming?

Not all farmers are about beans and corn.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

There's a big , big difference between the CROP farmer and the LIVESTOCK farmer nowadays. They are at two different ends of the stick.