Famous Jameis...Rapist?

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

So weight actually does make a difference, but it doesn't? Thanks for the tip.

And alcohol affects different individuals differently, hence mentioning biochemistry.

We all know weight is factor but .10 is .10 regardless and people dont normally black out at .10%.

I know you think everything about this is suspect due to how it was handled but it seems that after all the scrutiny they still didn't press charges, they had jack and shit.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

We all know weight is factor but .10 is .10 regardless and people dont normally black out at .10%.

I know you think everything about this is suspect due to how it was handled but it seems that after all the scrutiny they still didn't press charges, they had jack and shit.

You don't know what you're talking about. And if you don't believe me, then take it from the CDC:

Why do some people react differently to alcohol than others?
Individual reactions to alcohol vary, and are influenced by many factors; such as:

• Age.
• Gender.
• Race or ethnicity.
• Physical condition (weight, fitness level, etc).
• Amount of food consumed before drinking.
• How quickly the alcohol was consumed.
• Use of drugs or prescription medicines.
• Family history of alcohol problems.

Biochemistry plays a very large role in how an individual metabolizes alcohol.



If she was taking an antidepressant, for example, the booze would knock her ass out a lot sooner than if she takes nothing but Flintstone vitamins.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

You don't know what you're talking about. And if you don't believe me, then take it from the CDC:

Why do some people react differently to alcohol than others?
Individual reactions to alcohol vary, and are influenced by many factors; such as:

• Age.
• Gender.
• Race or ethnicity.
• Physical condition (weight, fitness level, etc).
• Amount of food consumed before drinking.
• How quickly the alcohol was consumed.
• Use of drugs or prescription medicines.
• Family history of alcohol problems.

Biochemistry plays a very large role in how an individual metabolizes alcohol.



If she was taking an antidepressant, for example, the booze would knock her ass out a lot sooner than if she takes nothing but Flintstone vitamins.

1. Weight is a factor due to volume, we have covered this.
2. Food also effects absorption rate which = BAC% speed, not level. IN other words you get to .1% faster but its still .1%.
3. How fast consumed equals BAC% see the 2 above.
4. No other drugs were found in her system.

The legal level for intoxication is .08% in most states. You think that's .02% from blackout level in some people? Really?

Legal level for intoxication was .11% for most states up until about 10 -15 years ago. Thats above blackout level according to you.

No the reality is .1% is impaired. Not non functioning.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

1. Weight is a factor due to volume, we have covered this.
2. Food also effects absorption rate which = BAC% speed, not level. IN other words you get to .1% faster but its still .1%.
3. How fast consumed equals BAC% see the 2 above.
4. No other drugs were found in her system.

The legal level for intoxication is .08% in most states. You think that's .02% from blackout level in some people? Really?

Legal level for intoxication was .11% for most states up until about 10 -15 years ago. Thats above blackout level according to you.

No the reality is .1% is impaired. Not non functioning.

I didn't say what a definitive blackout level is; in-fact no-one did, but the prosecuting attorney did say that levels the accuser was at are consistent with brownouts and memory gaps similar to what she displayed when discussing the incident.

Furthermore, .10 for everyone does not affect everyone the same. Alcohol does not affect people equally. If it did, everyone who hit .40 would die. Instead, numerous people can survive, and several can die of acute alcohol poisoning at a far lower rate.

Please, though, I'm sure you can educate him and us all more on what alcohol does to memory, and the body, given that you are the obvious expert. And since you read up on all of this, why can't you differentiate brownout from blackout?

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I didn't say what a definitive blackout level is; in-fact no-one did, but the prosecuting attorney did say that levels the accuser was at are consistent with brownouts and memory gaps similar to what she displayed when discussing the incident.

Furthermore, .10 for everyone does not affect everyone the same. Alcohol does not affect people equally. If it did, everyone who hit .40 would die. Instead, numerous people can survive, and several can die of acute alcohol poisoning at a far lower rate.

Please, though, I'm sure you can educate him and us all more on what alcohol does to memory, and the body, given that you are the obvious expert. And since you read up on all of this, why can't you differentiate brownout from blackout?

We aren't talking extreme fringe examples here Hamas.

Your opinion is it was mishandled. Mine opinion is I have no idea what happened looking at what is coming out of this story.

I also don't know too many girls who go to a bar and do a ton of shots who don't do this regularly and therefore it would be odd they cant handle being at .1% BAC.

I also think that the level of scrutiny the Tallahassee PD was facing when this blew up is very high so they were going to have to err on the side of caution not football fandom.

Also the fact there were "several" people in the room when the incident occurred yet nobody is willing to spill the beans on an assault seems odd to me.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

We aren't talking extreme fringe examples here Hamas.

Your opinion is it was mishandled. Mine opinion is I have no idea what happened looking at what is coming out of this story.

I also don't know too many girls who go to a bar and do a ton of shots who don't do this regularly and therefore it would be odd they cant handle being at .1% BAC.

I also think that the level of scrutiny the Tallahassee PD was facing when this blew up is very high so they were going to have to err on the side of caution not football fandom.

Also the fact there were "several" people in the room when the incident occurred yet nobody is willing to spill the beans on an assault seems odd to me.

Just to point something out here. If she was .1% at the time of the incident, that's not a guarantee that .1% was her highest mark of the night, and it doesn't mean that she couldn't have still been suffering from effects of a higher number earlier on.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Just to point something out here. If she was .1% at the time of the incident, that's not a guarantee that .1% was her highest mark of the night, and it doesn't mean that she couldn't have still been suffering from effects of a higher number earlier on.

The DA determined her BAC at the time of the incident could have been as high as .1%. It is what it is.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Just to point something out here. If she was .1% at the time of the incident, that's not a guarantee that .1% was her highest mark of the night, and it doesn't mean that she couldn't have still been suffering from effects of a higher number earlier on.

That's also true. I believe you process .01% about every 45 minutes-hour, though, so she likely was never in the .2% range.