Would you like me to step down as a moderator of Chiefsplanet?

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by pr_capone

I can't really speak for all of there but there is a varying range of complaints from, CP has become too agressive, trolling is encouraged, mods are bad, to personal issues on between posters.

Likely, the large majority of posters on The Hub, will still be posting on CP. They just wanted another outlet as wel.

Thanks. It is too bad this has happened. Have you guys ever talked to Kyle about this out of curiosity?

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Thanks. It is too bad this has happened. Have you guys ever talked to Kyle about this out of curiosity?

I came up with an idea on how to moderate DC. Had both sides of the political spectrum on board. Never heard back. Not even a no thanks. Thats no biggie though. If I had to say one thing is the cause for old timers posting on the hub its the aggressiveness of posters, not mods, that's got people cutting back on their posting here.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

I came up with an idea on how to moderate DC. Had both sides of the political spectrum on board. Never heard back. Not even a no thanks. Thats no biggie though. If I had to say one thing is the cause for old timers posting on the hub its the aggressiveness of posters, not mods, that's got people cutting back on their posting here.

I think we all are still waiting to hear from Kyle about his algorithm to determine what is racist language and what is not.

[AustinChief]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

I think we all are still waiting to hear from Kyle about his algorithm to determine what is racist language and what is not.

No one was willing to have the conversation on it. I thought it was something that we could talk our way through and get at least "some" form of consensus.. it's funny that the problem ended up not being one of people disagreeing... it was one of people simply not wanting to have a thought out discussion on the matter. I kept trying to push the conversation forward and ended up mostly talking to myself.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by AustinChief

No one was willing to have the conversation on it. I thought it was something that we could talk our way through and get at least "some" form of consensus.. it's funny that the problem ended up not being one of people disagreeing it was one of people simply not wanting to have a thought out discussion on the matter. I kept trying to push the conversation forward and ended up mostly talking to myself.

I was and still am but I thought you were making it overly complicated when it really isn't.

[AustinChief]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

I was and still am but I thought you were making it overly complicated when it really isn't.

Not trying to sidetrack this thread too much... but most people think that "well it's OBVIOUS" what is racist and what isn't... yeah, that's easily said but not at all easily enforced. There is a metric ton of grey area and I always tend to err on the side of free speech.

You can't just make a "list".. it's not the simple if you want to avoid the constant bitching that comes from "judgement calls."

I think we were on a decent track before everyone got lazy and stopped discussing it.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by AustinChief

Not trying to sidetrack this thread too much... but most people think that "well it's OBVIOUS" what is racist and what isn't... yeah, that's easily said but not at all easily enforced. There is a metric ton of grey area and I always tend to err on the side of free speech.

You can't just make a "list".. it's not the simple if you want to avoid the constant bitching that comes from "judgement calls."

I think we were on a decent track before everyone got lazy and stopped discussing it.

There are certain racial terms that should be on the list and we all know what they are. the rest of your post I agree with.

My point was and continues to be Context is everything so it is almost impossible IMHO to have an all encompassing rule.

I don't want to derail this thread so I will be quiet now.

[ShortRoundChief]

Originally Posted by AustinChief

No one was willing to have the conversation on it. I thought it was something that we could talk our way through and get at least "some" form of consensus.. it's funny that the problem ended up not being one of people disagreeing... it was one of people simply not wanting to have a thought out discussion on the matter. I kept trying to push the conversation forward and ended up mostly talking to myself.

Dear Kyle,

Kill rep.

Thanks,
Jeff

Originally Posted by Dick Bull

Dear Kyle,

Kill rep.

Thanks,
Jeff

I've been on board with this idea for about 7 years. We've voted several times. Most people don't think it's a problem. I did kill visitor messages, however.

[AustinChief]

Originally Posted by Dick Bull

Dear Kyle,

Kill rep.

Thanks,
Jeff

It' weird. I have never understood why people care or even check this. I will goes months without even remembering rep exists. As Phil pointed out, the board has consistently voted to keep it. I honestly don't care.

[ShortRoundChief]

Originally Posted by AustinChief

It' weird. I have never understood why people care or even check this. I will goes months without even remembering rep exists. As Phil pointed out, the board has consistently voted to keep it. I honestly don't care.

Let's do a little analysis of rep.

How many of these major events have been caused by rep (including reading rep messages)?

Does it bring people or keep people here?

People vote to keep it because it's like a virtual ego stroking (I've found myself being overly concerned about it as well). It's a popularity contest with a neg rep being equivalent to a put down.

I propose a simple 1 week evaluation period during the off season without it. After which a comprehensive review taking place.

Just a thought. Nothing to lose, a ton to gain.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by AustinChief

It' weird. I have never understood why people care or even check this. I will goes months without even remembering rep exists. As Phil pointed out, the board has consistently voted to keep it. I honestly don't care.

I don't either but they do. It seems it is used mostly to say shit to each other behind closed doors. get rid of it without a vote and see what happens. You won't hear me bitch.

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

I came up with an idea on how to moderate DC. Had both sides of the political spectrum on board. Never heard back. Not even a no thanks. Thats no biggie though. If I had to say one thing is the cause for old timers posting on the hub its the aggressiveness of posters, not mods, that's got people cutting back on their posting here.

I'm pretty sure your idea for moderating DC got lost in some blowup somewhere along the way. Kyle's directive is that we don't moderate DC unless something way over the top happens. That's what we've been doing.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Phobia

Kyle's directive is that we don't moderate DC unless something way over the top happens. That's what we've been doing.

Thats why it's a cesspool. It brings the whole site down because shit doesn't stay in DC.

[Mr. Plow]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Thats why it's a cesspool. It brings the whole site down because shit doesn't stay in DC.

As an occasional reader of DC....IMO, the problem is more that, regardless of party affiliation, there are a very few that actually discuss what the post/article/etc. Within 2 posts of the opening post, someone is there from the opposite party throwing names at the poster, or just immediately dismissing the article because it was from *insert "RWNJ"/"LWNJ" website*.