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Old 03-09-2014, 02:19 PM  
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Rumor: Albert to the Dolphins
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-the-dolphins/

So that great 08' draft class won 0 playoff games and 3 of the better players from that draft are no longer on the team. Thanks Pioli.
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Old 03-10-2014, 02:12 PM   #271
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Joeckel sucks for 5 games = Bust.
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Jags fans should be thankful that the Rams took him out of his misery for the season.
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Old 03-10-2014, 02:16 PM   #272
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There are literally 3 or 4 spots you just listed that had we taken a player there, we'd be in the same boat at that spot we are with OT now.

Jackson is likely walking, Lewis is gone, etc.
They drafted Fisher and betted on him developing into a quality starter by this coming season; to become a good enough player to replace Albert in the line-up without a drop off in play. I get why people are pissed because that seems like a tall order right now with how poorly he played at times last season.

It just sucks that we had the #1 pick last year and not this year.

The other thing is, we may actually have in-house answers for those guys. Commings should be better than Lewis, at least it's hard to be any worse. Bailey, Howard, and Catapano can easily take up the slack from Jackson; it's not like he was a dominant player or anything.
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Old 03-10-2014, 02:46 PM   #273
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Just used the rotoworld cut to show you that others that aren't homers agreed with me as well. Was our game against the Jags not enough to show you that Joeckel wasn't very good before he got hurt? Let me guess, TAMU fan?
So you don't actually know anything about him.
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Old 03-10-2014, 02:49 PM   #274
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Old 03-10-2014, 03:50 PM   #275
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Fisher is a Chief. He gets the benefit of the doubt.
I'm not defending Fisher at all. He played like absolute dogshit for most of the season. But you have to separate the pick from the player.

He was a solid pick, even though he wasn't at all what I wanted. I hated the pick, because I fundamentally disagreed with not swinging for the fences. That doesn't mean that it was a bad pick. It was just different than what I would have done. Drafting a potential franchise left tackle at first overall is a solid pick, no matter what.

Geno Smith would have been a solid pick.

Dion Jordan would have been a solid pick.

Star Lotuleilei.

Luke Joeckel.

They would have all been good bets at 1st overall. But sometimes good bets don't pay off, and sometimes they just don't pay off right away.

My argument is that you can't say he wasn't a good pick. He was one of the highest rated prospects in the draft at a position of need with a chance to take over one of the most impactful positions on the offense.

And those of you who think left tackle is somehow SO MUCH MORE valuable than right simply aren't paying attention to how the game is changing. It's like the nature of the third-down back or the nickel corner - these concepts are becoming outdated.

I'm not making excuses for Fisher, but I'm calling out the bullshit of people saying what a horrible pick it was. It's not like they line all the guys up and say "This guy is an all-pro player. This guy is a pro-bowler. This guy is a pile of turds." and then Dorsey looks them over and goes, "Hmmm... I'll take the turd."

You make guesses. Educated guesses. But it's always, no matter what, every time... a gamble.

Peyton Manning was a gamble. Andrew Luck was a gamble. They paid off.

Eric Fisher was a gamble. Dion Jordan, Star Lotuleilei... all of them.

Fisher just hasn't paid off. That doesn't make it a bad bet.
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Old 03-10-2014, 03:54 PM   #276
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Old 03-10-2014, 03:57 PM   #277
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Fisher just hasn't paid off. That doesn't make it a bad bet.
That's exactly why it's a bad bet...
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So now come the "Oh well, Albert isn't that good anyway (now that he's not a Chief) complaints"?
Yeah, it works the other way too. Didn't we all kind of know he was leaving?
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At least he was able to play in one playoff game...
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At least he was able to play in one playoff game...
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