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Old 03-10-2014, 06:52 PM  
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Old 03-10-2014, 11:33 PM   #76
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If Fisher plays at the level Albert did, by the time his contract is up the going rate is going to be $15 for the same level of production.
Cap will be $200 mil by then...
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Old 03-10-2014, 11:36 PM   #77
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that's just beyond silly

both Stephenson and Fisher are both miles better than Richardson ever was
His first 6 games Fisher was ****ing prison raped...
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Old 03-10-2014, 11:41 PM   #78
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Fisher was EXACTLY like Richardson, and in fact worse, last season, for all but a couple games.
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Old 03-10-2014, 11:42 PM   #79
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Fisher physically has more talent and ability to play the position than Albert. Doesn't mean he will ultimately play as well. But this was inevitable. We have two tackles who have the potential to play the position well and not a lot of cap space.
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Old 03-10-2014, 11:53 PM   #80
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I'd rather pay money than spend the 1.1 pick on a player to replace him who isn't even as good.
Fortunately for the Chiefs, that didn't happen.

And next year, we'll have two tackles that will be better than Albert was at LT and aren't going to have to fork over 10 million a year to watch him kill drives with dumbass penalties, let outside speed rushers work him over because he has absolutely zero kick step, see him hobble off the field four times every game and watch him flounder on the ground about every third snap after he over extends himself.

He is quite limited in terms of his technical abilities at the position and has based whatever he's shown on the field due his athletic ability for his size. However, at 30 with a reoccurring back problem, those athletic abilities become less and less impactful.

And the facts are, the guy had one good season, one mediocre season and the rest were absolute dog shit.

You don't pay 10 million a year for that unless you are absolutely desperate - much like the Dolphins are at this point.

Both Stephenson and Fisher have much better upside. Much.
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Old 03-10-2014, 11:54 PM   #81
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Fisher physically has more talent and ability to play the position than Albert.
I'd disagree.

Fisher is a much better athlete than Albert.

This is like arguing that Michael Jordan should be a better sumo wrestler than Joel Steed.

Fisher is long in the limbs, lanky (by OT standards,) and doesn't play with good lower body strength. His build alone plays against him when it comes to leverage.

He has no lead in his ass to hold a man off. That's as simple as I can put it.

To begin the year he was consistently bull rushed and pushed aside by average rushers...
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that's just beyond silly

both Stephenson and Fisher are both miles better than Richardson ever was
Fisher was pretty ugly the first half of the season. But you're correct that they are more talented. Richardson could not handle speed rushers to save his life. I'm not sure you could have fixed that. He got better at run blocking though.

Of course in Reid's offense you need guys like Fisher who are athletic and can move in space. I'd agree Fisher should've played better for a 1.1 pick, but what can you do a this point, dump him? We would not give up on players at other positions with his level of talent after only one season. He showed progress at the end of the year, although I'm not sure anyone on the OL really played well in the playoff game.
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Old 03-11-2014, 12:04 AM   #83
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I'd disagree.

Fisher is a much better athlete than Albert.

This is like arguing that Michael Jordan should be a better sumo wrestler than Joel Steed.

Fisher is long in the limbs, lanky (by OT standards,) and doesn't play with good lower body strength. His build alone plays against him when it comes to leverage.

He has no lead in his ass to hold a man off. That's as simple as I can put it.

To begin the year he was consistently bull rushed and pushed aside by average rushers...
He needs to get stronger. I think everyone on the planet would agree. That's probably his biggest weakness. But he's a very athletic big guy, and when he's playing well he looks great in space.

If you're playing in someone else's offense, maybe it'd be different. But in this offense I think Fisher has the most potential.
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If you're playing in someone else's offense, maybe it'd be different. But in this offense I think Fisher has the most potential.
I think he's loaded with potential.

I also think he's a 3 year project and not a guy who needs one offseason to add a few pounds...
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Fisher was pretty ugly the first half of the season. But you're correct that they are more talented. Richardson could not handle speed rushers to save his life. I'm not sure you could have fixed that. He got better at run blocking though.

Of course in Reid's offense you need guys like Fisher who are athletic and can move in space. I'd agree Fisher should've played better for a 1.1 pick, but what can you do a this point, dump him? We would not give up on players at other positions with his level of talent after only one season. He showed progress at the end of the year, although I'm not sure anyone on the OL really played well in the playoff game.
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I think he's loaded with potential.

I also think he's a 3 year project and not a guy who needs one offseason to add a few pounds...
And therein lies the problem.

This regime's moves, to date, suggest a "win now" approach, not the least of which was the move to get Alex Smith.

And now it looks we're going to rebuild the offensive line from scratch. Makes no sense at all. Smith is going to end up getting killed.
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