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[MagicHef]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Yea bc that was my point

A guy that's a pass rush specialist and rotational player cannot be better than an every down DE that can take on double teams in the run game and still end up with more sacks in 2 fewer games.

If you actually payed attention and used the eye ball test you would know this, but then again I'm talking to the ****ing guy that claimed Antonio Smith was a ****ing NT.

Malik gets double teamed as well:



Calling him a rotational player is stupid. He played more snaps than Howard did. Realistically, every DL in the league, except maybe Poe, is a rotational player.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by MagicHef

Malik gets double teamed as well:



Calling him a rotational player is stupid. He played more snaps than Howard did. Realistically, every DL in the league, except maybe Poe, is a rotational player.

Holy shit you've got to be kidding me

You just posted a gif of him standing around in a pass rushing situation to demonstrate he has the ability to take on double teams in the run game? All that gif proved is that he probably couldn't do it at all on a run play.

Also he's not a starter so what else do I call him? Bailey had significantly more snaps and played two fewer games. So yes, there's a difference.

[MagicHef]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Holy shit you've got to be kidding me

You just posted a gif of him standing around in a pass rushing situation to demonstrate he has the ability to take on double teams in the run game? All that gif proved is that he probably couldn't do it at all on a run play.

Also he's not a starter so what else do I call him? Bailey had significantly more snaps and played two fewer games. So yes, there's a difference.

1st and 10 is not a "pass rushing situation". Jackson's responsibility is to read for run vs pass, unlike Von, who goes full steam in as a pass rusher.

If you would like some numbers, Jackson played 149 run snaps, had 21 stops and 0 missed tackles.

Bailey played 305 run snaps, had 19 stops and 2 missed tackles.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by MagicHef

1st and 10 is not a "pass rushing situation". Jackson's responsibility is to read for run vs pass, unlike Von, who goes full steam in as a pass rusher.

If you would like some numbers, Jackson played 149 run snaps, had 21 stops and 0 missed tackles.

Bailey played 305 run snaps, had 19 stops and 2 missed tackles.

It's a ****ing pass play not a run play so what does that have to do with being a run stuffing DE that commands double teams?

The fact that you used THAT play to prove your point just goes to show just how clueless you are.

Can you show me how many times each guy took on a double team allowing their LB's to make a stop? No that's the ****ing point. PFF stats/rankings don't mean shit when you consider a players responsibilities within a scheme.

[MagicHef]

Originally Posted by staylor26

It's a ****ing pass play not a run play so what does that have to do with being a run stuffing DE that commands double teams?

The fact that you used THAT play to prove your point just goes to show just how clueless you are.

Can you show me how many times each guy took on a double team allowing their LB's to make a stop? No that's the ****ing point. PFF stats/rankings don't mean shit when you consider a players responsibilities within a scheme.

You try finding gifs of run plays.

2 things that the gif I provided show:

-Malik is lined up on a G on a play where it isn't clear whether the offense will be running or passing, and has clear run-defending responsibilities. Therefore Denver trusts him in the run game.

-KC decided to double team him.

You can have your "run stuffing DE that commands double teams" who isn't really that good against the run, but puts on a good show on one play against the Chargers, I'll take the better DE in Jackson.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by MagicHef

You try finding gifs of run plays.

2 things that the gif I provided show:

-Malik is lined up on a G on a play where it isn't clear whether the offense will be running or passing, and has clear run-defending responsibilities. Therefore Denver trusts him in the run game.

-KC decided to double team him.

You can have your "run stuffing DE that commands double teams" who isn't really that good against the run, but puts on a good show on one play against the Chargers, I'll take the better DE in Jackson.

You are slowly entering KnowMo territory.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by MagicHef

Realistically, every DL in the league, except maybe Poe, is a rotational player.

You can be taught

[MagicHef]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

You can be taught

How do you feel about it? Do you like that Poe plays every snap, or would you like to see him rotated some?

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by MagicHef

How do you feel about it? Do you like that Poe plays every snap, or would you like to see him rotated some?

I'd like to see him rotated more often but appreciate the fact that he's versatile enough to never need to come off the field.

Other upper echelon NTs are essentially ineffective as pass rushers and; therefore, pretty much a waste of space on 3rd downs. That's why you'll often see guys like Vince Wilfork and Damon Harrison come off the field in obvious passing situations. Poe is not that.