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Old 10-12-2015, 09:44 AM  
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Would you suffer through another year of Alex Smith if they draft a 1st round QB?

Say the Chiefs win 2-4 games this season and end up drafting a QB with their 1st pick.

Would you be willing to suffer through another season of Alex Smith? This is assuming that the rookie sits for the 1st season to get a handle on the offense. This also makes it so the Chiefs don't have to take a huge cap hit to cut Smith.
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Old 10-12-2015, 10:29 AM   #31
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Ideal is to draft a R1QB and sit him behind Drew Brees for 2 seasons after Smith is released and signs with the Jets.
I dont think you understand how things work.
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Old 10-12-2015, 10:30 AM   #32
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Old 10-12-2015, 10:31 AM   #33
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Why not start Aaron Murray NOW and see if he is finally the young QB the Chiefs can build around?
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Old 10-12-2015, 10:35 AM   #34
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We can't get rid of Alex next year. I don't wanna waste money on two retreads...
According to OTC, a June 1 cut of Smith nets $1MM back to the cap versus keeping him in '16. A trade would net a lot more back but that's gonna be hard to pull off for obvious reasons.

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****. It. Sign Daniel for $15mm guaranteed over 3 years tomorrow and jettison Smith as a post June-1 cut. They're no worse for the cap, they can get a full offseason of trying to Tyler Thigpen-up the gameplan for Daniel as a starter to stall for time until a rook is ready.
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Old 10-12-2015, 10:37 AM   #35
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Damn straight I would.

But that sort of thing requires, y'know, foresight. Which no iteration of the Chiefs front office has ever ****ing had even an ounce of.
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Old 10-12-2015, 10:37 AM   #36
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Restructure Smith's contract to fully hit next year and get it over with.
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Old 10-12-2015, 10:39 AM   #37
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Old 10-12-2015, 10:39 AM   #38
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smith is irrelevant, he's just a pussy stealing clark's money

drafting the qb is the only thing that matters...we've waited decades, what's one more year
I would never consider Smith a pussy.

Pussies don't get the living shit kicked out of themselves to the point of rupturing internal organs and keep going back out.

I think that Smith has become detrimental to himself and the team in that he knows that there is a fine line being walked in terms of game time decisions on both sides of the ball that require him to not make any mistakes.

This leads to overly conservative play which in and of itself leads to mistakes. He's holding onto the ball too long which leads to protection issues that aren't necessarily the offensive lines fault. He's regularly throwing behind receivers because he's tying to make sure that they are in the right route. (Did this numerous times yesterday.)

They need to sit him. Give him a couple of games to refocus and get his head back together and see what they have in Daniel and Murray. Smith is an intelligent player with good mechanics and game understanding who would be a good tutor/mentor to a rookie for the next year or two.

But they have to really focus on making that a real thing right now. Dorsey's army of scouts should be told right now to comb through potential QB players for the next two drafts getting as much information and film on them as possible. Start some deep, hard work on the position immediately.

So, in a nutshell, yes, I'd be willing to tolerate Smith at QB for the next two seasons if the team were showing that they were putting in the necessary work to get a guy in who would be the QBOTF in the next two drafts.
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Old 10-12-2015, 10:39 AM   #39
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The key to the poll is "drafting a first-round quarterback".

I can understand the Alex Smith problem. Andy was a good-bet hire by Clark, and Andy thought he could make Alex great. They tried it, and it's not working. Clark has shown a willingness to cut bait and move on when something's not working, so I think he'll do the same here.
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Old 10-12-2015, 10:41 AM   #40
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No. It's a plug and play NFL now. Alex sucks. Move on.
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Old 10-12-2015, 10:46 AM   #41
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Smith is an intelligent player with good mechanics and game understanding who would be a good tutor/mentor to a rookie for the next year or two.

So, in a nutshell, yes, I'd be willing to tolerate Smith at QB for the next two seasons if the team were showing that they were putting in the necessary work to get a guy in who would be the QBOTF in the next two drafts.
1. Smith hasn't shown that he is an intelligent player. Delay of games, no sense of urgency, no two minute drive in 2 1/2 years, can't read the field, no pocket awareness. Mentor my ass.

2. Why are you giving them two years? This is the KC mantra - no real prospect this year, let's wait again.
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Old 10-12-2015, 11:08 AM   #42
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Smith is an intelligent player with good mechanics and game understanding who would be a good tutor/mentor to a rookie for the next year or two.
I fully believe that Smith is an intelligent person. But I've never seen much that would cause me to think he's an intelligent football player. He simply doesn't display any realtime intelligence when it's necessary on the field. He consistently stares down his first option, to the point that defenders completely abandon their responsibility and simply follow Smith's eyes. Here's a perfect example. Look at how the two safeties follow his eyes to the checkdown, and leave a WR streaking uncovered up the middle:



There are countless more examples of this. At the first sign of any pressure, his decision making falls apart. If his first read isn't open, he has considerable difficulty adjusting to any other outcome. Generally he'll simply take off running. Many times all it takes is just the phantom anticipation of pressure to cause him to abandon the pocket. And he's simply terrible once he does leave the pocket. His vision is reduced to the point that defenses start crowding the box and let receivers run wild.

He may have considerable intelligence as a person, but his lack of confidence and fear of mistakes negates every single bit of that once he gets any whiff of pressure on the field.
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Old 10-12-2015, 11:12 AM   #43
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Old 10-12-2015, 11:13 AM   #44
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I fully believe that Smith is an intelligent person. But I've never seen much that would cause me to think he's an intelligent football player. He simply doesn't display any realtime intelligence when it's necessary on the field. He consistently stares down his first option, to the point that defenders completely abandon their responsibility and simply follow Smith's eyes. Here's a perfect example. Look at how the two safeties follow his eyes to the checkdown, and leave a WR streaking uncovered up the middle:



There are countless more examples of this. At the first sign of any pressure, his decision making falls apart. If his first read isn't open, he has considerable difficulty adjusting to any other outcome. Generally he'll simply take off running. Many times all it takes is just the phantom anticipation of pressure to cause him to abandon the pocket. And he's simply terrible once he does leave the pocket. His vision is reduced to the point that defenses start crowding the box and let receivers run wild.

He may have considerable intelligence as a person, but his lack of confidence and fear of mistakes negates every single bit of that once he gets any whiff of pressure on the field.
God he sucks! That ball should have been to Jamaal as soon as he makes his cut back inside.
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