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Old 10-26-2015, 04:26 PM  
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Would drafting a QB in the first round renew your excitement for the Chiefs?
I think it's the ONLY thing that can reel me back in as a fan and get me interested, again.

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Old 10-27-2015, 10:17 AM   #76
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I'm not denying we need an upgrade at QB. If our QB pool was Smith, Daniel, and a JAG I'd say pull the trigger. But the deal is that we have a guy under contract that just happens to be the SEC all time leader in both TDs and yards not even dressing for the game. We have another guy, under contract, that has never left the IR/NFI in the regular season that probably would have been a 1st rounder if he would have waited another year and wouldn't have been such an airhead.
It seems prudent to me to start Murray or let him play in relief before we waste a #1. If he sucks, at least we know what we have.
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Old 10-27-2015, 10:18 AM   #77
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I'm not denying we need an upgrade at QB. If our QB pool was Smith, Daniel, and a JAG I'd say pull the trigger. But the deal is that we have a guy under contract that just happens to be the SEC all time leader in both TDs and yards not even dressing for the game. We have another guy, under contract, that has never left the IR/NFI in the regular season that probably would have been a 1st rounder if he would have waited another year and wouldn't have been such an airhead.
It seems prudent to me to start Murray or let him play in relief before we waste a #1. If he sucks, at least we know what we have.
Murray should play this year....especially if we're not making the playoffs. But Murray is not a reason to not draft a QB in the 1st round if we have a chance.
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Old 10-27-2015, 10:21 AM   #78
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See this argument falls flat with the rookie salary cap. Gone are the days when Sam Bradford and / or Jamarcus Russell rookie QB contracts would kill a team for 5 - 6 years if they didn't pan out.

Simply put there is no reason that KC should not address the QB position with a first round draft pick. No more excuses, just pull the damn trigger.
Never, ever underestimate the education level of the True Fan.... I have family members, STH's that will openly tell you that they would rather be around the 7-9/10-6 mark every year than to draft a QB and compete for a championship.

Reason? Because they are scared he might not work out and he isn't a safe pick. He is risky and they would rather back in or sneak in to the playoffs here and there to try and make some noise....

I shit you not dude. They are so monumentally ****ing stupid its maddening... But they love the BBQ smoke, the noise record and the early 90's....
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Old 10-27-2015, 10:25 AM   #79
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I'm not denying we need an upgrade at QB. If our QB pool was Smith, Daniel, and a JAG I'd say pull the trigger. But the deal is that we have a guy under contract that just happens to be the SEC all time leader in both TDs and yards not even dressing for the game. We have another guy, under contract, that has never left the IR/NFI in the regular season that probably would have been a 1st rounder if he would have waited another year and wouldn't have been such an airhead.
It seems prudent to me to start Murray or let him play in relief before we waste a #1. If he sucks, at least we know what we have.
Waste a #1? We have wasted more #1 picks than any other franchise in the history of this sport...

Picking a QB in round 1 is never a waste in the modern day NFL... Picking OL in the round 1 is a waste when you don't have a QB....
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Old 10-27-2015, 10:36 AM   #80
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Never, ever underestimate the education level of the True Fan.... I have family members, STH's that will openly tell you that they would rather be around the 7-9/10-6 mark every year than to draft a QB and compete for a championship.

Reason? Because they are scared he might not work out and he isn't a safe pick. He is risky and they would rather back in or sneak in to the playoffs here and there to try and make some noise....

I shit you not dude. They are so monumentally ****ing stupid its maddening... But they love the BBQ smoke, the noise record and the early 90's....
Oh trust me, I have them in my family as well. Good friends that are Tru Fans as well. Will twist themselves into knots defending the JAG after JAG and KC puts into the QB position.

It's the O-Line...
The receivers always drop the ball...
RB is hurt...
The D lost the game not the QB...

The fear of drafting the next Ryan Leaf is so paralyzing. But another bust a OL is very appealing.
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Old 10-27-2015, 10:49 AM   #81
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Old 10-27-2015, 10:50 AM   #82
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Oh trust me, I have them in my family as well. Good friends that are Tru Fans as well. Will twist themselves into knots defending the JAG after JAG and KC puts into the QB position.

It's the O-Line...
The receivers always drop the ball...
RB is hurt...
The D lost the game not the QB...

The fear of drafting the next Ryan Leaf is so paralyzing. But another bust a OL is very appealing.
They call me a negative Chiefs fan because you need a franchise QB to win in the modern NFL....

Are you sure we don't have the same family members?
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They call me a negative Chiefs fan because you need a franchise QB to win in the modern NFL....

Are you sure we don't have the same family members?
My wife says that it's not fun to watch the games with me.
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Old 10-27-2015, 10:56 AM   #84
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Would it renew my excitement? No. But it sure would go a lot further in renewing my excitement than another lame, no heart fat body they would rather draft.
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Play along for the moment. After another disappointing loss in London, the brain trust at 1 Arrowhead becomes as smart as some of the members of CP. They concede the season is lost, bench Smith, and Murray takes the starters job. Lo and behold, the Chiefs go 6-2, Murray throws for 18 or more TDs, averages 350 yards per game and the team finishes 8-8. Are we still in the market for a 1st round QB? Did we just screw up our draft position (the horror!!)? Are the villagers still lighting torches?
My contention is we need to see now what we have in-house before we pin the 2016 and beyond seasons on the unknown talent of a college player.
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OL will always be the right safe decision in every draft.... I have die hard true fan family members that swear by this... Drafting a QB will destroy your franchise if its not a guarantee...
That was the shittiest QB draft I've ever seen. Only year you go with another position.

This year is not 2013. Draft a QB
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Old 10-27-2015, 01:10 PM   #88
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No general proposition of a hypothetical draft by position is going to alter my enthusiasm.

It depends entirely on the specific player and his pedigree/potential.

This question seems a little to me like asking a Kansas Citian, would you be happier with some place to live in Atlanta?

I mean there are regional benefits to each, but the actual house and neighborhood you live in in each respective location is a more important consideration.
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Russell Wilson--not a 1st round QB. Andy Dalton--not a 1st round QB. Derek Carr--not a 1st round QB. Hey, here's a thought. Why don't we dress and maybe even start our 5th rounder from 2014? Seems to be a nice kid, tossed a few TDs at Georgia.
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Play along for the moment. After another disappointing loss in London, the brain trust at 1 Arrowhead becomes as smart as some of the members of CP. They concede the season is lost, bench Smith, and Murray takes the starters job. Lo and behold, the Chiefs go 6-2, Murray throws for 18 or more TDs, averages 350 yards per game and the team finishes 8-8. Are we still in the market for a 1st round QB? Did we just screw up our draft position (the horror!!)? Are the villagers still lighting torches?
My contention is we need to see now what we have in-house before we pin the 2016 and beyond seasons on the unknown talent of a college player.
Exactly! Drafting a QB in the 1st round just for the sake of drafting one is reeruned logic. One post suggested it was just to show that the "mindset" has changed. If Murray got a shot and looked promising then drafting another QB in the 1st round versus the best player available hurts this team! I am more interested in taking BPA and improving the team as a whole. QB's don't win games on their own. No matter what QB we draft or have on the roster, if our staff can't develop them then it wouldn't matter. If our staff DOES have the ability to develop a QB then Murray has displayed all of the tools necessary in college to compete at the NFL level. We don't need a 1st round QB, we need the right QB and we need to develop said QB! Murray is a talented and intelligent prospect. There is no reason he can't be developed. I believe we have a failure in the system here and Reid needs to go. Flame away............
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