DC Comics "Suicide Squad" Cast Confirmed

[JD10367]

Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy!

Don't remember where (maybe Hollywood Reporter) saying exactly what Anyong said.

The facts, yes, but his supposition that this action created a "Frankenfilm" and was the sole reason it is supposedly a bad film is, IMO, incorrect. If anything, it seems like the execs probably stayed out of it more than they usually do; it seemed to me, like "GotG", that "Squad" was more a film made by people who, if they weren't making the film, would want to see the film they were making (if that makes sense). Honestly, it's not a great film, but given the source material I'm not sure how it could've been much better. It's a large cast so it has the problems any film with a large cast does, like "Avengers", or "GotG" or "Legends of Tomorrow" on TV, which is what the film feels most like--a bunch of losers who end up in a group. And since it comes after "GotG" and "Legends" it has an unavoidably derivative feel; if this film had come before "GotG" it probably would've gotten better reviews.

If I had one complaint I'd say they did try to make it TOO accessible and family-friendly; I've heard comments about violence but frankly there really isn't any--there was more violence in the scene in "BvS" where Batman rescues Clark's mom than there was in the entire "Suicide Squad" film. The film almost isn't dark enough; it's akin to the first "Batman" film, really.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by JD10367

The facts, yes, but his supposition that this action created a "Frankenfilm" and was the sole reason it is supposedly a bad film is, IMO, incorrect.

90% of all films are created in the edit bay. Without a great edit, the most amazing script, direction and photography can be absolutely destroyed and turned into garbage.

Warner's is doing a terrible job in their comic universe post Nolan. If they had released the BvS UE edition instead of the watered down, overly edited version, there would be far less outcry and a more unified vision moving forward.

Now, they're likely screwed for a while and may never get it back on track.

[Anyong Bluth]

Originally Posted by JD10367

The facts, yes, but his supposition that this action created a "Frankenfilm" and was the sole reason it is supposedly a bad film is, IMO, incorrect. If anything, it seems like the execs probably stayed out of it more than they usually do; it seemed to me, like "GotG", that "Squad" was more a film made by people who, if they weren't making the film, would want to see the film they were making (if that makes sense). Honestly, it's not a great film, but given the source material I'm not sure how it could've been much better. It's a large cast so it has the problems any film with a large cast does, like "Avengers", or "GotG" or "Legends of Tomorrow" on TV, which is what the film feels most like--a bunch of losers who end up in a group. And since it comes after "GotG" and "Legends" it has an unavoidably derivative feel; if this film had come before "GotG" it probably would've gotten better reviews.

If I had one complaint I'd say they did try to make it TOO accessible and family-friendly; I've heard comments about violence but frankly there really isn't any--there was more violence in the scene in "BvS" where Batman rescues Clark's mom than there was in the entire "Suicide Squad" film. The film almost isn't dark enough; it's akin to the first "Batman" film, really.

Asking people what they want to see is the biggest mistake. Talent is talent, and should be visionary. It's a presentation of artistic achievement, and frankly, 90% of the public has either poor taste or no creative talent.

If you want want a say, go read a choose your own adventure book.

Homogenized film is terrible. Studio execs are rarely "talent"- especially these days.

There's a reason why Robert Evans was so successful as a studio head in what was the last golden era of film in Hollywood. It baffles me that more visionary talent isn't in place to head up exec decisions when it comes to final say when the studios wanna tinker with a movie.

[Beef Supreme]

Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth

Asking people what they want to see is the biggest mistake. Talent is talent, and should be visionary. It's a presentation of artistic achievement, and frankly, 90% of the public has either poor taste or no creative talent.

If you want want a say, go read a choose your own adventure book.

Homogenized film is terrible. Studio execs are rarely "talent"- especially these days.

There's a reason why Robert Evans was so successful as a studio head in what was the last golden era of film in Hollywood. It baffles me that more visionary talent isn't in place to head up exec decisions when it comes to final say when the studios wanna tinker with a movie.

Yep. Letting a bunch of executives make creative decisions is why a lot of stuff sucks. I know it happens a lot in advertising.