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Old 08-06-2016, 11:40 PM   #1
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so is comparing spiderman 3 to bvs.. just really bad judgment all around
Spiderman 3 ended up being rated higher than BvS on both RT and Metacritic.
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Old 08-07-2016, 01:54 AM   #2
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Spiderman 3 ended up being rated higher than BvS on both RT and Metacritic.
Who cares? You keep referencing it as if either are gospel.

Back to the previous point about Marvel and DC being treated differently.

A list of stories from a very popular website.
Why are there stories being put out to assure people about the critics reviews?



The audience clearly disagrees with the critics even if the movie is just "ok", it certainly is not 26% worthy bad.



I'll say it again, Marvel gets treated with kid gloves, and conversely DC catches a lot more scrutiny.
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Old 08-07-2016, 02:29 AM   #3
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Who cares? You keep referencing it as if either are gospel.

Back to the previous point about Marvel and DC being treated differently.

A list of stories from a very popular website.
Why are there stories being put out to assure people about the critics reviews?



The audience clearly disagrees with the critics even if the movie is just "ok", it certainly is not 26% worthy bad.



I'll say it again, Marvel gets treated with kid gloves, and conversely DC catches a lot more scrutiny.
Because Marvel is better than DC? Batman is my homie but I'd give the overall nod to Marvel.
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Old 08-07-2016, 07:56 AM   #4
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Because Marvel is better than DC? Batman is my homie but I'd give the overall nod to Marvel.
Marvel, and Disney, have their shit together because, in chief, they've wisely laid out a road map, and been given near autonomy. DC is foolishly trying to play catch up and as such in their rush to put down the broad strokes, they're overlooking the finer details.

First, there’s no race. DC is rushing to get comprable franchises up on screen. You can't shortcut over a decades worth of work to catch up. Instead of trying to rush to get even with Marvel, DC should have been pursuing to beat the pace time Marvel had set at each leg of building up the MCU.

Keeping with the subject of time. It's still temporary. Marvel is going to hit rough stretches and new leadership and creative talent doesn't come with a guarantee of repeated past success.

That's what I mean by neither Marvel or DC is better or worse. This isn't Coke vs RC. They have equal footing even if currently Marvel is in bloom. DC has to deal with WB, and maybe the new management is already addressing it? Otherwise, WB seems to be telling DC to stick with "New" Coke when Classic is the right play.

Historically speaking, DC has the the biggest iconic characters, and they've managed to bring most of them to the screen with 2 left feet.
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Old 08-07-2016, 08:23 AM   #5
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Marvel, and Disney, have their shit together because, in chief, they've wisely laid out a road map, and been given near autonomy. DC is foolishly trying to play catch up and as such in their rush to put down the broad strokes, they're overlooking the finer details.

First, there’s no race. DC is rushing to get comprable franchises up on screen. You can't shortcut over a decades worth of work to catch up. Instead of trying to rush to get even with Marvel, DC should have been pursuing to beat the pace time Marvel had set at each leg of building up the MCU.

Keeping with the subject of time. It's still temporary. Marvel is going to hit rough stretches and new leadership and creative talent doesn't come with a guarantee of repeated past success.

That's what I mean by neither Marvel or DC is better or worse. This isn't Coke vs RC. They have equal footing even if currently Marvel is in bloom. DC has to deal with WB, and maybe the new management is already addressing it? Otherwise, WB seems to be telling DC to stick with "New" Coke when Classic is the right play.

Historically speaking, DC has the the biggest iconic characters, and they've managed to bring most of them to the screen with 2 left feet.
I was taking a glance at which characters fall into which universe last night. I did it because I never followed these guys with any depth. TBH-I'm really not a comic book hero guy at all. I read Mad, Cracked, and Peanuts collections as a kid. My two favorite comic book heroes are Batman and Wolverine. So...looking at a list of each set of super heroes, the Marvel universe characters have more appeal to me. I would expect the Marvel movies to be better than the DC movies.
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Old 08-07-2016, 10:48 AM   #6
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I was taking a glance at which characters fall into which universe last night. I did it because I never followed these guys with any depth. TBH-I'm really not a comic book hero guy at all. I read Mad, Cracked, and Peanuts collections as a kid. My two favorite comic book heroes are Batman and Wolverine. So...looking at a list of each set of super heroes, the Marvel universe characters have more appeal to me. I would expect the Marvel movies to be better than the DC movies.
Growing up, loved me some MAD magazine, Cracked (though distant 2nd compared to MAD), and The Far Side. Toss in a side of Calvin and Hobbes.
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Old 08-07-2016, 11:29 AM   #7
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Marvel, and Disney, have their shit together because, in chief, they've wisely laid out a road map, and been given near autonomy.
But let's not forgot that it took Marvel nearly a decade to even get rolling. The Hulk movies were awful. X-Men (Fox) and Spider-Man 1&2 (Sony) were far better than anything produced by Marvel until Iron Man, which IMO, doesn't hold up well.

Both Thor films, IM 2&3 and the first Captain America don't hold up well at all, IMO.
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But let's not forgot that it took Marvel nearly a decade to even get rolling. The Hulk movies were awful. X-Men (Fox) and Spider-Man 1&2 (Sony) were far better than anything produced by Marvel until Iron Man, which IMO, doesn't hold up well.

Both Thor films, IM 2&3 and the first Captain America don't hold up well at all, IMO.
I think people forget how Spider-Man 1 and 2 were due to how shitty 3 was.

Spider-Man 2 was fantastic.

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Old 08-07-2016, 11:16 AM   #10
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Who cares? You keep referencing it as if either are gospel.
I've done no such thing. I made a simple point, and people like you decided to jump on it with really stupid responses.

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Back to the previous point about Marvel and DC being treated differently.

A list of stories from a very popular website.
Why are there stories being put out to assure people about the critics reviews?



The audience clearly disagrees with the critics even if the movie is just "ok", it certainly is not 26% worthy bad.



I'll say it again, Marvel gets treated with kid gloves, and conversely DC catches a lot more scrutiny.
Look at your own arguments about quality, instead of hunting for conspiracies. You say that the Marvel movies are consistently good, then you insist that Marvel's getting a tongue bath, despite several of their movies getting very low end 'good' results.

And, seriously, looking at audience score, especially in the first week of a hyped fan boy movie? You know better than that.

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