Alexander Douglas Smith: 2016

[Mr. Flopnuts]

We wouldn't we want to roll out another Alex Smith thread?!?!? Listen, for the Clay haters, this will probably be the thread that gets him banned. He can't help himself, right? Let's go!!!

First off, as many of you know, I have been very critical of Alexander Douglas Smith. Wasn't happy with the trade, HATED the extension, and have burned him to the ground from the beginning. So ****ing sick of the retread QB's.

So, that said Alex Smith is my Daddy. I mean, I just have to own that at this point. Here's why. He's never had continuity in a system. That guy had a new offensive coordinator just about every year until Jim Harbaugh showed up. And he flashed a little bit. That said, it sure looks like San Fran traded their best QB to us in favor of some douche that's starting some thing all over the league, while riding the bench to a guy named Blaine Gabbert.

Alex is now in his 4th year of the same system and it's showing. He's getting better. Why is he my daddy now all of a sudden though? Because he proved that he's more than just a game manager. He made some ****ing incredible throws against the Chargers last week. The back shoulder Maclin throw, the Maclin throw where Jeremy was almost killed, The Spencer Ware throws. Twice he hit him downfield (like, way more than 8 yards!), and then finally the Kelce throws.

People can give Spencer Ware a lot of credit, he is deserving of it after the monster game he had. Make no mistake about it though, Alexander Douglas Smith personally put this team on his back and willed them to victory. 1 play at a time. 1 throw at a time. He's a leader, and it reflected in the locker room after that game. They trust Alex now. They trust that he has what it takes to will them to victory in any game.

Alex isn't just a game manager anymore. He's a game changer, and a leader. This team could go 6-10 this year and I'll say the same thing. He has the ability and he's proven it. Now let's see where they go with it. I'm officially a YUGE Alex fan. What do you think? I'll take your comments off air.

[duncan_idaho]

Same story it's been the whole time: Smith is a limited QB who can "win" when his defense and running game do all the heavy lifting for him.

Outside of the random game (and you can count them on one hand and still have a finger left to flip off Scott Pioli), he doesn't put up the type of performance you need to win games when the D and run game aren't dominating.

Last night was just another point of evidence vindicating what the anti-Alex legion has been saying all along.


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[In58men]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Same story it's been the whole time: Smith is a limited QB who can "win" when his defense and running game do all the heavy lifting for him.

Outside of the random game (and you can count them on one hand and still have a finger left to flip off Scott Pioli), he doesn't put up the type of performance you need to win games when the D and run game aren't dominating.

Last night was just another point of evidence vindicating what the anti-Alex legion has been saying all along.


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I've been saying this since we signed him. He's a very limited QB and I'm pretty sure Reid tells him not to audible because he truly doesn't know what he's doing.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

People actually believe Smith is to blame for all of our miscues this season... You know the mediocre o line, lack of pass rush, numerous dropped passes, horrendous run defense, the fumbles, shanked punts, questionable play calling.
Alex hasn't been sharp to start the season and why Andy refuses to let him rush for yards is beyond me.

Thank God we have a bye week to fix this mess

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Originally Posted by Inmem58

I've been saying this since we signed him. He's a very limited QB and I'm pretty sure Reid tells him not to audible because he truly doesn't know what he's doing.

Hands down the most ignorant post in this thread. Pederson gave Smith freedom second half of last season and he took off with it

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

People actually believe Smith is to blame for all of our miscues this season... You know the mediocre o line, lack of pass rush, numerous dropped passes, horrendous run defense, the fumbles, shanked punts, questionable play calling.
Alex hasn't been sharp to start the season and why Andy refuses to let him rush for yards is beyond me.

Thank God we have a bye week to fix this mess

Excuse us. All we heard about in the offseason was how this was a great roster, so much depth, Super Bowl contender, Alex FINALLY has all the pieces...

Now that's been proving to be the homer bullshit some called it as from the beginning, you want to talk about how it's all the roster, not him?

The problem with Smith is the same at it has always been: He's so limited, he needs EVERYTHING operating almost perfectly around him to beat teams with a pulse.

He is, was, and always will be that QB. And you can't win a Super Bowl with that guy.

But, you can win 7-8 games, minimum, keep the parking lots full, sell tickets, and win 10+ of things line up perfectly.

But hey, there's hope! Maybe the Chiefs will have another big run of luck and play another string of backup QBs like they did in 2013 and 2015!


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[BigBeauford]

The saying "If you run into an asshole in the morning, you've run into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day, you're the asshole", probably applies to Smith, who has had how many people try to wring some talent out of him? How many have died on the hill for this mediocre to average QB?

[Red Dawg]

Dorsey needs to do his job and get involved. There is no reason at this point not to bench Alex and start Foles. He's not some formerly great QB that deserves 9 lives. The players I'm sure have seen enough and the fans I know have seen enough. 3 years of him leading the offense to nothing is enough. We have two weeks to get Foles ready and we should do it and try to salvage the season and give ourselves a shot. If Alex keeps going we have no shot and that is a fact.

Dorsey was at GB and he knows what QB play should be. If Andy won't do it then he should order him to do it.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Excuse us. All we heard about in the offseason was how this was a great roster, so much depth, Super Bowl contender, Alex FINALLY has all the pieces...

Now that's been proving to be the homer bullshit some called it as from the beginning, you want to talk about how it's all the roster, not him?

The problem with Smith is the same at it has always been: He's so limited, he needs EVERYTHING operating almost perfectly around him to beat teams with a pulse.

He is, was, and always will be that QB. And you can't win a Super Bowl with that guy.

But, you can win 7-8 games, minimum, keep the parking lots full, sell tickets, and win 10+ of things line up perfectly.

But hey, there's hope! Maybe the Chiefs will have another big run of luck and play another string of backup QBs like they did in 2013 and 2015!


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Alex FINALLY has all the pieces???


Smith isn't the coach, he doesn't control the pieces.


Let's be clear ... Alex Smith has played like shit this year.


BUT it still doesn't address the bigger issue, shitty coaching.

offense,defense,special team have all been bad.

Why does Toub tell Davis to bring out every kick, even if it's 7 yrds deep in the endzone? I assume he tells him to since he doesn't stop it.

endless shit is wrong beyond Alex Smith

We could put Nick Foles out there right now and let him practice during the entire bye week and our offense would still be the same sideways passing dogshit that it is right now. Maybe Foles wouldn't overthrow on some of the passes but it's still the same bullshit.

REID,SUTTON,TOUB

Not to mention some question positional coaches.

[OctoberFart]

Reid and Smith are a great combo. Keep the stadium filled with a mediocre team and the fans can still eat their BBQ outside drankin Natty light.

[kccrow]

You know, I've quietly let Smith kind of just be the guy with hope that adding pieces around him would make a difference and he'd evolve, but that isn't the case.

Give a decent QB the weapons Alex Smith has and this team scores points.

Alex Smith is a huge, huge problem. There, I said it. He's much more the problem with the offense than Andy Reid's play calls.

I'm done lending this guy excuses.

Few teams in the NFL have as much team speed at the skill positions as the Chiefs. The skill guys don't suck, at least the primary weapons.

Jeremy Maclin is a top-shelf WR in this league and runs a 4.45.
Travis Kelce is a top-shelf TE in this league and runs a 4.61.
Chris Conley is emerging as a solid #2 WR and runs a 4.35.
Tyreek Hill has looked really good in the slot when he gets the football and runs a 4.25.
Demetrius Harris is looking well-developed and catches the football when it comes his way, and he runs a 4.56.
Add in that the Chiefs have a really good stable of running backs that can all catch the football really well, with one of the best speed backs of an era in Jamaal Charles set to return.

There are NO excuses for Alex Smith from a weapons perspective. He has them. They get open.


The offensive line isn't dog shit. Most of the time, they give Alex the time he needs to make his progressions. That is, when Alex isn't RUNNING INTO SACKS. Or when Alex gets happy feet after 1 second, looks down at the rush, instead up the field.

The offensive line is good at run blocking too. This team can put out 100 yard backs weekly.

Alex Smith has absolutely no idea how to attack a defense. He doesn't take chances. He doesn't throw the tight balls that a QB needs to throw in the NFL. He doesn't throw deep enough.

Alex Smith is a big problem and is by far the biggest hindrance to this offense.

[RunKC]

Pretty much what crow just said.

I'm on board with cutting Alex with a June 1st designation in the offseason ($10 million cap savings) and giving Foles his $10.75 million option. He's your cheap veteran insurance while you look for your QB in the draft.

[Discuss Thrower]

Foles will be in Chicago or Cleveland next year.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Pretty much what crow just said.

I'm on board with cutting Alex with a June 1st designation in the offseason ($10 million cap savings) and giving Foles his $10.75 million option. He's your cheap veteran insurance while you look for your QB in the draft.

That shit is never going to happen. This team will allow Alex to ride off into the sunset. And I don't mean by winning anything big.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Foles will be in Chicago or Cleveland next year.

Both those franchises have been burned by by passing on QB's for bad veterans. It's hard to see them passing on a QB in the draft.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

That shit is never going to happen. This team will allow Alex to ride off into the sunset. And I don't mean by winning anything big.

Andy traded McNabb at 33 and drafted a QB 36th overall when he had Vick. If Alex continues playing bad, I think it's realistic that Andy moves on.

The problem is that it doesn't look like a QB will be available in the draft.