The NFL is becoming more disturbing than appealing, and TV viewers are tuning out

[Molitoth]

Originally Posted by Chief Pagan

You think a computer is going to be able to make a PI call automatically? I'm not seeing that any time soon.

You might be able to automate forward progress/breaking the goal line and things like that.

Or do you want every pass play to be reviewed by humans?

I'm saying we need to have headsets from the replay booth DIRECTLY to the officials on the field.
Think about how fast the replay booth is displaying the correct call on the giant TV's in the stadium for the entire fanbase to disagree with... only for the play to not be challengable.

leading to...

Teams should be able to challenge any call on the field they want, to a limited amount of times. A Pass Interference call should be review-able. (Bill Belechik has been vocal about this)



Getting multiple calls WRONG per game is not making the game better.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by Chief Pagan

You think a computer is going to be able to make a PI call automatically? I'm not seeing that any time soon.

You might be able to automate forward progress/breaking the goal line and things like that.

Or do you want every pass play to be reviewed by humans?

Dude. You're off base. I've posted all this before.

Remote sensing is ****ing cake, man. I have a decade old combine and it can count how many seeds per minute are being lost out the sieves or cleaning shoe, it constantly measures how many RPM each chain and belt shiv is turning (there are shitload), it measures how many pounds per second of grain is flowing into the grain tank - calculate variables of speed, GPS position, Overlap, header width, commodity weight - to produce a real time yield/acre at any given point in the field along with moisture samples every 15 seconds, it constantly measures the pressure at each injector, turbocharger pressures and blade positions, measures the density of the material in the return elevator, along with a whole mess of shit that I don't know what means.

I can remotely tell where my pivots are, the pressure at both ends, as well as the technology to speed up and slow down an electric motor (via frequency drive - I'm not smart enough to do the engineering enough to explain that one) to match pressures on the fly.

In the cab, I can know if my planter is dropping singluated seeds or doubles to give me real time population and singulation information. The rate monitor calculates shaft speed, compares it to GPS or radar speed, as well as plate size, to automatically increase or decrease planter drive speed to achieve required population. It can measure row unit downpressure and automatically adjust pneumatic pressures to achieve a predetermined downpressure as soil conditions change through the field.

My air drill has blockage monitors on every row to give me real time indicatiors from every row.

I have a closed system chemical meter that automatically meters chemical to .01% accuracy despite widely varying liquid densities.

Neighbors of mine have soil probes that remotely tell them in real time the saturation of water in the soil. Without moving from their desk

And I'm a shit poor dirt farmer.

The technology is there. It's reliable. It's cheap. It's tiny. It's all integratable.

If I can; 1. afford it, 2. use it effectively, there is no reason the bottomless pockets of the NFL can't.

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by Molitoth

I'm saying we need to have headsets from the replay booth DIRECTLY to the officials on the field.
Think about how fast the replay booth is displaying the correct call on the giant TV's in the stadium for the entire fanbase to disagree with... only for the play to not be challengable.

leading to...

Teams should be able to challenge any call on the field they want, to a limited amount of times. A Pass Interference call should be review-able. (Bill Belechik has been vocal about this)



Getting multiple calls WRONG per game is not making the game better.

One thing I know for sure is that losing a challenge for being correct is insane. Even with earning one back if you are correct twice, it's crazy.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

Dude. You're off base. I've posted all this before.

Remote sensing is ****ing cake, man. I have a decade old combine and it can count how many seeds per minute are being lost out the sieves or cleaning shoe, it constantly measures how many RPM each chain and belt shiv is turning (there are shitload), it measures how many pounds per second of grain is flowing into the grain tank - calculate variables of speed, GPS position, Overlap, header width, commodity weight - to produce a real time yield/acre at any given point in the field along with moisture samples every 15 seconds, it constantly measures the pressure at each injector, turbocharger pressures and blade positions, measures the density of the material in the return elevator, along with a whole mess of shit that I don't know what means.

I can remotely tell where my pivots are, the pressure at both ends, as well as the technology to speed up and slow down an electric motor (via frequency drive - I'm not smart enough to do the engineering enough to explain that one) to match pressures on the fly.

In the cab, I can know if my planter is dropping singluated seeds or doubles to give me real time population and singulation information. The rate monitor calculates shaft speed, compares it to GPS or radar speed, as well as plate size, to automatically increase or decrease planter drive speed to achieve required population. It can measure row unit downpressure and automatically adjust pneumatic pressures to achieve a predetermined downpressure as soil conditions change through the field.

My air drill has blockage monitors on every row to give me real time indicatiors from every row.

I have a closed system chemical meter that automatically meters chemical to .01% accuracy despite widely varying liquid densities.

Neighbors of mine have soil probes that remotely tell them in real time the saturation of water in the soil. Without moving from their desk

And I'm a shit poor dirt farmer.

The technology is there. It's reliable. It's cheap. It's tiny. It's all integratable.

If I can; 1. afford it, 2. use it effectively, there is no reason the bottomless pockets of the NFL can't.

I would agree. You wouldn't even have to do it for everything. Even just doing it his for the ball crossing the goal line which would be incredibly easy to do it your way and would save tons of time.

But it doesn't solve the problem of the rules committee forcing way too many nonsense rules based on opinion. Stupid rules like taunting are introducing a shit load of human element into officiating

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

Dude. You're off base. I've posted all this before.

...

Neighbors of mine have soil probes that remotely tell them in real time the saturation of water in the soil. Without moving from their desk

And I'm a shit poor dirt farmer.

The technology is there. It's reliable. It's cheap. It's tiny. It's all integratable.

If I can; 1. afford it, 2. use it effectively, there is no reason the bottomless pockets of the NFL can't.

As I posted, I can see how this could work for something like determining whether the ball crossed the goal line. And if it works, I think the NFL should do it.

But my previous post was asking whether this technology can be used for something like pass interference. I still don't see how that is going to happen. I guess if you fed some neural network computer the video of every legal pass defense and pass interference call... I wouldn't say it is absolutely impossible, but I'm still not seeing it.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I would agree. You wouldn't even have to do it for everything. Even just doing it his for the ball crossing the goal line which would be incredibly easy to do it your way and would save tons of time.

But it doesn't solve the problem of the rules committee forcing way too many nonsense rules based on opinion. Stupid rules like taunting are introducing a shit load of human element into officiating

Agreed. A systems approach with the goal of achieving a perfectly called game would fix a lot of it.

Originally Posted by Chief Pagan

As I posted, I can see how this could work for something like determining whether the ball crossed the goal line. And if it works, I think the NFL should do it.

But my previous post was asking whether this technology can be used for something like pass interference. I still don't see how that is going to happen. I guess if you fed some neural network computer the video of every legal pass defense and pass interference call... I wouldn't say it is absolutely impossible, but I'm still not seeing it.

Impact sensors on padding would go a long way. PI is a tough out but tech can help.

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by Molitoth

I'm saying we need to have headsets from the replay booth DIRECTLY to the officials on the field.
Think about how fast the replay booth is displaying the correct call on the giant TV's in the stadium for the entire fanbase to disagree with... only for the play to not be challengable.

leading to...

Teams should be able to challenge any call on the field they want, to a limited amount of times. A Pass Interference call should be review-able. (Bill Belechik has been vocal about this)



Getting multiple calls WRONG per game is not making the game better.

I'm all for experimenting around to see if replay can be made faster and better and I agree anything should be review-able.