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Old 12-06-2016, 09:25 AM   #1
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I guess I don't know what sustainable means anymore because I read it and hear it all the time that what we do is not sustainable?

If we win 20 out of 24 games, how is the formula of mitigating mistakes, forcing turnovers and being super efficient in red zone defense not sustainable?

We are 3-0 against the Raiders and 3-0 vs the Chargers in that stretch. We are 2-0 vs the broncos with this formula...

our losses @ Patriots, @ Texans when they had JJ watt, @ Pitt, and at home vs the Bucs. All division leaders (or tied) and playoff teams. We are built to win the division and make a playoff push with this formula...

It works.
There's an argument out there that you can get these kinds of turnovers against bad teams but when we play the Patriots and Brady he isn't going to be throwing picks all over the field like some of the shitty QB's have. Turnovers are inherently dependent on what the other team is doing, you can't just enforce your will on a turnover. If Ryan doesn't make a couple of poor decisions, Berry can't get those picks no matter how athletic he is.

Not to mention that there is an element of "randomness" when it comes to turnovers, and even if we think our team is in a better position to create turnovers compared to other teams, there is still the strong possibility that in at least one playoff game out of 4 the dice might roll the other way and we end up not getting any turnovers, which would put a lot of pressure on our offense. That should be a scary thought for a lot of Chiefs fans, what we would have to hope is that the offense is able to step up in that kind of scenario.
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Old 12-06-2016, 09:29 AM   #2
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There's an argument out there that you can get these kinds of turnovers against bad teams but when we play the Patriots and Brady he isn't going to be throwing picks all over the field like some of the shitty QB's have. Turnovers are inherently dependent on what the other team is doing, you can't just enforce your will on a turnover. If Ryan doesn't make a couple of poor decisions, Berry can't get those picks no matter how athletic he is.

Not to mention that there is an element of "randomness" when it comes to turnovers, and even if we think our team is in a better position to create turnovers compared to other teams, there is still the strong possibility that in at least one playoff game out of 4 the dice might roll the other way and we end up not getting any turnovers, which would put a lot of pressure on our offense. That should be a scary thought for a lot of Chiefs fans, what we would have to hope is that the offense is able to step up in that kind of scenario.

even though we had Good Andy and Good Alex on Sunday, we lose if Ryan doesn't throw those two pick-scores.

The defense had just coughed up the likely game winning TD when berry got the pick-two.

We escaped with a win, which is great. But even playing a much better game on offense, we just did escape with that game.
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Old 12-06-2016, 09:35 AM   #3
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even though we had Good Andy and Good Alex on Sunday, we lose if Ryan doesn't throw those two pick-scores.
No shit?

We don't lose if we don't force a legit MVP candidate running the NFL's best offense into two costly mistakes?
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Old 12-06-2016, 09:38 AM   #4
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even though we had Good Andy and Good Alex on Sunday, we lose if Ryan doesn't throw those two pick-scores.

The defense had just coughed up the likely game winning TD when berry got the pick-two.

We escaped with a win, which is great. But even playing a much better game on offense, we just did escape with that game.
I completely understand this, I also felt like the offense could drive and win this game had they gone for 1 point. We had to engineer 2 first downs to win this game, and if we needed a third - I was actually confident that we could get it...
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