Please define "sustainable"

[-King-]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Because Berry and DJ have just taken over the league in forced turnovers during their time here? Give me a break.

We had 36 takeaways in 2013, 29 in 2015 and already 25 so far in 2016. We had only 14 in 2014.

So Mike Devito and Derrick Johnson are worth 15 takeaways in your eyes.

EDIT: I see you edited to add some stuff. Still don't buy it.

No, but Berry and Johnson have done that since Sutton, a DC that lives on aggressive defenses have.

I mean, that would have to be the biggest coincidence ever. We get Sutton who is an aggressive DC and we just so happen to be a top 3 takeaway team 75% of the time. And the only year we're not great at it is the year our two all pro players are gone. Thats a HUGE coincidence.
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[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by -King-

No, but Berry and Johnson have done that since Sutton, a DC that lives on aggressive defenses have.



I mean, that would have to be the biggest coincidence ever. We get Sutton who is an aggressive DC and we just so happen to be a top 3 takeaway team 75% of the time. And the only year we're not great at it is the year our two all pro players are gone. Thats a HUGE coincidence.
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We had Berry for like half of that season so essentially it boils down to Devito and DJ. If you want to go through the game-by-game statistics and can find a noticeable difference in the takeaways with and without Berry then maybe I could accept what you're saying.

But it's important to note we also had Houston for 16 games that year. Given the fact that he had a historic season you'd have to think that'd partially mitigate the loss of DJ.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by -King-

No, but Berry and Johnson have done that since Sutton, a DC that lives on aggressive defenses have.

I mean, that would have to be the biggest coincidence ever. We get Sutton who is an aggressive DC and we just so happen to be a top 3 takeaway team 75% of the time. And the only year we're not great at it is the year our two all pro players are gone. Thats a HUGE coincidence.
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Sutton isn't playing an aggressive style this year

He has gone full-on Romeo Crennal, bend-don't-break this year.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

Sutton isn't playing an aggressive style this year

He has gone full-on Romeo Crennal, bend-don't-break this year.

Other than the two very different schemes they employ, with Sutton playing almost Exclusively man to man, you're totally right. Great Sutton take as always Laz!
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[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by -King-

Other than the two very different schemes they employ, with Sutton playing almost Exclusively man to man, you're totally right. Great Sutton take as always Laz!
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Playing man-to-man on the outside isn't necessarily aggressive if you have 4 safeties playing zone on the inside. It's just a coverage scheme.

More snark than substance as always King!!


Although it will be interesting to see if Sutton gets more aggressive as we get healthy. If he does get more aggressive will that result in more or less turnovers? Initially you would think that it will lead to more turnovers. Although it also involves more risk and less defensive plays than bend/don't break does.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

Playing man-to-man on the outside isn't necessarily aggressive if you have 4 safeties playing zone on the inside. It's just a coverage scheme.

More snark than substance as always King!!


Although it will be interesting to see if Sutton gets more aggressive as we get healthy. If he does get more aggressive will that result in more or less turnovers? Initially you would think that it will lead to more turnovers. Although it also involves more risk and less defensive plays than bend/don't break does.

How would you propose the be more aggressive? It's not like they're dropping 7 and playing cover 2 everydown