The Unpopular Thread

[RealSNR]

We were playing 2nd and 3rd stringers along the DL for half the year.

And like it or not, we were doing fine with Ehinger until he got injured. Fisher, Morse, and Schwartz are coming back.

"We need help at the lines" is stupid because we're already stacked at DL (the only reason why we had any success there through the injuries was because we were stacked) and our backup LG had to play the entire season. Sure, get some challengers for depth in there, but is it REALLY necessary to get all these fatties at both ends? No. Not at all.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

We were playing 2nd and 3rd stringers along the DL for half the year.

And like it or not, we were doing fine with Ehinger until he got injured. Fisher, Morse, and Schwartz are coming back.

"We need help at the lines" is stupid because we're already stacked at DL (the only reason why we had any success there through the injuries was because we were stacked) and our backup LG had to play the entire season. Sure, get some challengers for depth in there, but is it REALLY necessary to get all these fatties at both ends? No. Not at all.

OL is fine unless Ehinger has knee AIDS and we get Howard and Bailey back. I don't want to use high picks on the lines.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by RunKC

OL is fine unless Ehinger has knee AIDS and we get Howard and Bailey back. I don't want to use high picks on the lines.

I cant make myself buy that about the O line... we cant just point to Fulton and say "see? that ONE guy is the reason we cant run", there is definitely something missing there besides some rookie guard in Ehinger

No chance I buy that kind of impact from a raw rookie guard

But who actually needs upgraded is tougher to put a finger on IMO

Is it Morse right in the middle, can he generate push in the run game, is he nasty enough in mentality?

Is it LDT, is he decent at everything but sucks at any one thing?

Is it Fisher? Is HE the reason we cant get a push in the run game?

Schwartz has looked like a pass blocking RT to me from day 1, and thats fine in todays league... at any rate he is NOT a mauling, road grader over there

I genuinely dont know whats going on there, but I've been saying it since at least midseason... this O line is much too finesse

Cant run up the gut, cant get a 3rd and short to save their lives... one thing is for sure, this line has a physicality problem

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Easy 6

I cant make myself buy that about the O line... we cant just point to Fulton and say "see? that ONE guy is the reason we cant run", there is definitely something missing there besides some rookie guard in Ehinger

No chance I buy that kind of impact from a raw rookie guard

Then you need to chart out the plays from each game this last season. I did early on and Fulton was clearly the issue, as was Schwartz, who was apparently dealing with an ankle issue. Morse took a step backwards as well. LDT has "upside" but as I've said in the past, by the time he reaches his ceiling, he'll be ready to practice medicine.

The Chiefs need better guard play if they're going to run between the tackles, plain and simple.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Then you need to chart out the plays from each game this last season. I did early on and Fulton was clearly the issue, as was Schwartz, who was apparently dealing with an ankle issue. Morse took a step backwards as well. LDT has "upside" but as I've said in the past, by the time he reaches his ceiling, he'll be ready to practice medicine.

The Chiefs need better guard play if they're going to run between the tackles, plain and simple.

Man, its certainly possible I'm underestimating Ehingers impact... maybe the consensus raw and not ready functional strength-wise guy was just better than advertised in technical ways that arent always obvious

You're making a great argument, but I'm still on the fence... Fulton didnt see like some huge albatross last year

[RunKC]

I'm going to post a gif of O'Shags and Harris missing blocks that ruined the drive in the 1 yard debacle vs the Titans.

I'm gonna use that gif every time someone tells me we don't need a blocking TE

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Easy 6

Man, its certainly possible I'm underestimating Ehingers impact... maybe the consensus raw and not ready functional strength-wise guy was just better than advertised in technical ways that arent always obvious

You're making a great argument, but I'm still on the fence... Fulton didnt see like some huge albatross last year

Ehinger was much better in the run game than the passing game to start the season but was making strides in pass pro before tearing his ACL against the Raiders.

Fulton is much better in the passing game than in the running game and after 3 years (in which he spent 16 games as a starter his rookie season at right guard), he's hit his ceiling as a guard.

I'll never understand why Fulton wasn't moved to the starting center position, with Morse at the Left Guard spot, because he's much more mobile than Fulton.

But then again, I don't understand many of the personnel decisions that are made by Andy Reid.