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Old 02-13-2017, 02:14 PM  
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Post your short list (realistic) for 27
1. Patrick Mahomes
2. Jarrad Davis
3. Haason Reddick
4. Christian McCaffrey
5. Alvin Kamara
6. John Ross

I feel pretty confident that barring Berry leaving, we will be going QB, ILB, or RB at 27.
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Old 02-14-2017, 10:24 AM   #16
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Knowing our luck.....

Mahomes will shoot up the boards before the draft and we won't have a shot at him. Kizer will fall, we'll pass on him at 27 and someone will end up trading up to 31 or 32 to draft him. We'll take a QB in the 4th/5th and he won't amount to shit. Same as it always was.
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Old 02-14-2017, 04:42 PM   #17
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There are some insanely stupid whispers suggesting Kizer falls to the 2nd round.

You take him at 27?
Yes, absolutely. I believe he has the best overall skill set of any QB in the draft, but he had some accuracy issues and decision making issues this year largely helped by inexperience on the O-line and at WR. He's still very young and needs more time to develop reading coverages, but even then he ran a relatively complex spread scheme at Notre Dame. He didn't throw an insane number of interceptions, so that's a plus. He has a great arm and throws with good touch. He's big, strong, and athletic. He's a pocket passer first, showing the ability to stand in the pocket, move around a bit to buy time, and usually tries to keep his eyes down the field. I think a large portion of the "hesitancy" thrown out and about by scouts is alot to do with WRs not actually getting open or him having to scramble around in the pocket just to get the ball to them this season. You didn't see that as much in 2015 when he had much more talent around him. I would like to see him process more quickly through progressions and not stare down targets as frequently, and that is a knock on every single collegiate QB really. I don't see him having any more of a problem with it than any other QB in this class. I also think he has to clean up his accuracy on out routes to the sideline. I saw him miss alot of those this year that were pretty damn routine, easy hits for 8-10 yards.

I'm a huge fan of Kizer's.
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Old 02-14-2017, 05:05 PM   #18
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Yes, absolutely. I believe he has the best overall skill set of any QB in the draft, but he had some accuracy issues and decision making issues this year largely helped by inexperience on the O-line and at WR. He's still very young and needs more time to develop reading coverages, but even then he ran a relatively complex spread scheme at Notre Dame. He didn't throw an insane number of interceptions, so that's a plus. He has a great arm and throws with good touch. He's big, strong, and athletic. He's a pocket passer first, showing the ability to stand in the pocket, move around a bit to buy time, and usually tries to keep his eyes down the field. I think a large portion of the "hesitancy" thrown out and about by scouts is alot to do with WRs not actually getting open or him having to scramble around in the pocket just to get the ball to them this season. You didn't see that as much in 2015 when he had much more talent around him. I would like to see him process more quickly through progressions and not stare down targets as frequently, and that is a knock on every single collegiate QB really. I don't see him having any more of a problem with it than any other QB in this class. I also think he has to clean up his accuracy on out routes to the sideline. I saw him miss alot of those this year that were pretty damn routine, easy hits for 8-10 yards.

I'm a huge fan of Kizer's.
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Old 02-14-2017, 07:21 PM   #19
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Reid isn't taking a QB in Rd 1 when we already have a legit QB. They will choose a playmaker that can start on day one. Our QB pick will be in rd 4-6
Reid doesn't run the draft.
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Old 02-14-2017, 07:26 PM   #20
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We could have taken Brock Osweiller or Paxton Lynch and set ourselves back for years.
The stupidest statement ever from you and that is saying something. Remember you thought Johnny Manziel was going to be the best ever.
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Old 02-15-2017, 08:32 AM   #21
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I like Cunningham but CP will lose its shit if we draft a ILB round 1.
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Old 02-15-2017, 08:44 AM   #22
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I like Cunningham but CP will lose its shit if we draft a ILB round 1.
Meh, I'm not going to lose mine. I might if if there are a couple QBs there - it would take more than 1 with me. Any one guy can be a one who sucks the penis - ala Geno Smith, but if there are 2 or 3 highly rated guys, I'd probably lose my shit.

I mean, if we were back picking at 3, and ended up with TYSON MOTHER****ING JACKSON (I'd rather have an elite ILB, then he'd at least be ****ing productive). God **** you Scott Franchise Killer Pioli.
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I like Cunningham but CP will lose its shit if we draft a ILB round 1.
Only if one of the top 4 QB's are available.
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Old 02-15-2017, 05:20 PM   #24
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Reid doesn't run the draft.
Oh yeah, I forgot Reid just calls dorsey after the draft and asks him what happened.
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Old 02-15-2017, 05:23 PM   #25
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The stupidest statement ever from you and that is saying something. Remember you thought Johnny Manziel was going to be the best ever.
You're a liar ! I've said way more stupider stuff.

And Johnny Manziel WAS the best ever until the Browns got ahold of him. He had no chance then.
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You're a liar ! I've said way more stupider stuff.

And Johnny Manziel WAS the best ever until the Browns got ahold of him. He had no chance then.
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Why does that set us back for years? Teams draft busts all the time in the 1st round. It only sets you back for years if you refuse to move on and find someone else.

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Old 02-19-2017, 12:28 AM   #28
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I like Cunningham but CP will lose its shit if we draft a ILB round 1.
CP will lose its shit if the Chiefs don't draft a QB in round 1. Personally, I fully expect them not to. A lot of gambles in this draft. I'd be more willing to bet on a move up in the 2nd for a guy that falls. The Chiefs are basically in a "must draft a QB" situation, so I don't think they can sit idle.
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If we don't get a QB round 1, the pick better be Haason Reddick. That guy would be awesome here and would make a big difference.
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Old 02-20-2017, 02:12 PM   #30
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This draft reads QB in round one all day long.

This is exactly the time to do it. Our real needs are at ILB and OG, and while it is an immediate need at ILB, I don't think we find the solution in the first round of the draft.

I'll be shocked if Dorsey passes on a QB if there is one he like. Timing is absolutley perfect.
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