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Old 03-21-2017, 05:36 PM  
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Which QB Do You Like

Ok gentlemen, time to let us know what QB you'd like to see the Chiefs draft this year. Maybe list the top 3-5 guys in order of preference.....along with a bit of commentary about each guy. I'll start this with....

(1) P Mahomes - Yeah his footwork stinks and yeah he played in a "gimmick" offense, but he is the absolute antithesis of Alex Smith. Mahomes is a gunslinger whereas Alex has the mentality of an accountant. So, in that singular regard, Mahomes is most appealing. Add in the fact that he has a cannon for an arm and you have the Chiefs starting QB in 2018.

2) D Webb - First of all, I like this kid's pedigree - son of a high school coach so he's been immersed in football/jargon for a long time. Plus he has prototypical size for an NFL QB, an excellent arm capable of all NFL throws, good pocket presence and a high football IQ. Give this kid a year or two to learn behind Alex, and he could end up being a damn good NFL QB. A lot to like about this guy.

3) M Trubisky - A bit concerned that he was only a starter for one year, but he appears to have a very solid NFL skillset. His floor might be higher than any other QB available this year. A safe selection wtih considerable upside.

4) D Watson - Everytime I see/hear mention of Watson as an NFL QB I think of Robert Griffin III. Pretty much similar skillsets, size, arm and football savvy. I thought RGIII would be a dynamite NFL QB, but sadly, he leaned on his running ability too much. I fear the same could happen with Watson. If available, I'd definitely take a flyer on him, but not without some concern.

5) D Kizer - Another strong armed QB with prototypical NFL size. His stats for 2016 were rather "meh", but there were definitely times when he looked damn good. Additionally, his supporting cast for 2016 was also rather "meh". That said, Kizer clearly did not raise the level of play in his surrounding players. Very, high ceiling, but could also be a total bust.

Who do you like???
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Old 03-22-2017, 10:43 AM   #31
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Mahomes
Kizer
Trubisky

Don't want anyone else before the third round and none of them are likely to be there at the back when we pick so why bother ranking them?
Yep and I don't see Trubisky falling to us. So that leaves Kizer and Mahomes.
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Old 03-22-2017, 10:45 AM   #32
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Honesty there only 3 QBs I take a chance on

In no order

Mahomes, Kizer, Watson

Mahomes raw talent is worth the risk

Kizer tremendous ability wondering bout taking less talented team to greatness seemed to fail at that at Norte Dame.

Can't believe this but me and pest are on the same page with one exception. I see RG3 with Watson too, but the leadership intangibles I never saw in RG3. I remember when he came out that was the one thing I thought was missing.

I pass on all the others I don't feel good bout drafting any of them I could be wrong, but I'm not confident in any of the future star ability.

I've always loved Watson but I'm starting to lean with Mahomes if Dorsey and Reid sign off.
If Watson is Griffin minus the injury issues and being a headache sign me up. I thought Griffin would be great ever since that OU game.
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Old 03-22-2017, 10:45 AM   #33
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I don't think people hate him it's the comparison to Smith makes everyone mad. They did same thing to Mariotta too way off as this to Watson. He has a better arm and besides a few games has shown more leadership ability . I'm in love with the poise of this QB.

I've always been thinking what this team needs is a QB who rises to the occasion this is definitely Watson. Could be Mahomes not sure yet because he didn't have much talent around him.
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Old 03-22-2017, 10:46 AM   #34
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If Watson is Griffin minus the injury issues and being a headache sign me up. I thought Griffin would be great ever since that OU game.
Watson, in no way, has the same arm strength that Griffin had.
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Old 03-22-2017, 10:49 AM   #35
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But pest way more poise watch last years Bama game. If RG3 had a first half like Watson RG3 would've gone in the tank second half Watson stepped it up against one of the best Ds in the league.
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Old 03-22-2017, 11:05 AM   #36
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Greg doesnt seem to like Mahomes at all.
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Old 03-22-2017, 12:11 PM   #37
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Had nothing to stay about Kizer?
Not sure how I missed him. He was 1st one he mentioned.

Kizer - will get coaches excited. Size, arm strength, movement, composure. Not a high % thrower but impressive. Has slow eyes.

Also, Matthew Stafford's arm is the measuring stick. Watson can't make his throws.
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Old 03-22-2017, 12:27 PM   #38
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I can't wait to watch Gruden's QB Camp on these guys. I have seen a few clips on ESPN, and on the one on Mahomes, Gruden says he threw the best pass he has ever seen on a roll out/scramble to the left. Threw about a 30 yard TD pass right on the money into the end zone. It was pretty sweet.
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Old 03-22-2017, 01:33 PM   #39
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The 1st round QBs, regardless of the Chiefs:

1. Watson
2. Tribusky
3. Mahomes
4. Kizer

1st round QBs, with the Chiefs specifically in mind:

1. Watson
2. Tribusky
3. Mahomes
4. Kizer

Top 5 QBs for the Chiefs, outside of Watson and Tribusky, who I don't think fall to the Chiefs:

1. Mahomes
2. Webb
3. Kizer
4. Peterman
5. Evans

Late round nuggets:

1. Rush
2. Dobbs
3. Knight
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Old 03-22-2017, 02:41 PM   #40
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I'm going to have to go back and watch Peterman's tape. I thought this stat was very telling:

Against pressure Nathan Peterman had 9TDs and only 1 INT last year.
Here's how the other top QBs fared by comparison:

Deshaun Watson - 8TDs : 3INT
Davis Webb - 8 TDs : 4 INT
Deshone Kizer - 6 TDs : 3 INT
Mitchell Trubisky - 2 TDs : 1 INT
Pat Mahomes - 7 TDs : 6 INT
Joshua Dobbs - 12 TDs : 5INT (that many TDs is pretty good against SEC competition non-the-less)
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Old 03-22-2017, 02:46 PM   #41
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I'm going to have to go back and watch Peterman's tape. I thought this stat was very telling:

Against pressure Nathan Peterman had 9TDs and only 1 INT last year.
Here's how the other top QBs fared by comparison:

Deshaun Watson - 8TDs : 3INT
Davis Webb - 8 TDs : 4 INT
Deshone Kizer - 6 TDs : 3 INT
Mitchell Trubisky - 2 TDs : 1 INT
Pat Mahomes - 7 TDs : 6 INT
Joshua Dobbs - 12 TDs : 5INT (that many TDs is pretty good against SEC competition non-the-less)
I can understand the Peterman-Smith comparisons, but I see more Drew Brees flashes with him.
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Old 03-22-2017, 05:35 PM   #42
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Peterman or Webb in the 3rd or later would be what I would take in this draft. Best value and pretty much the same potential as the "top" guys.
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I'm going to have to go back and watch Peterman's tape. I thought this stat was very telling:

Against pressure Nathan Peterman had 9TDs and only 1 INT last year.
Here's how the other top QBs fared by comparison:

Deshaun Watson - 8TDs : 3INT
Davis Webb - 8 TDs : 4 INT
Deshone Kizer - 6 TDs : 3 INT
Mitchell Trubisky - 2 TDs : 1 INT
Pat Mahomes - 7 TDs : 6 INT
Joshua Dobbs - 12 TDs : 5INT (that many TDs is pretty good against SEC competition non-the-less)
That is super interesting.
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Old 03-22-2017, 07:55 PM   #44
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I'm telling you guys, look for Peterman in the 2nd if the Chiefs pass on a QB in the first.
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Old 03-22-2017, 08:27 PM   #45
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I'm telling you guys, look for Peterman in the 2nd if the Chiefs pass on a QB in the first.
Chiefs go Joshua Dobbs in the 5th round ....
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